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Post by bennyblueballs on Oct 14, 2017 17:33:30 GMT
Is it really a new low in the past 14 years losing to a lower league team in the cup? Or is it just a bad month and we are now up there to be shot at? For me it’s not losing to a lower league, it’s the poor quality of performance and style of play. |
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Post by stew5018 on Oct 14, 2017 17:43:30 GMT
Ashamed to be a spitfire--not for the game which I pretty much expected but by some of the disgraceful conduct by a few supporters. So if u were the middle aged yob in a white tee shirt with horizontal blue and orange stripes who was standing by the segregation fence half way up the stand you are a disgrace. You spent not one second looking at the football. U spent the entire game winding up the opposition and encouraging our younger fans to act like you. Eastleigh doesnt't need you--you r not a football fan u r. What you are is not suitable to be said. I have 2 young grandchildren who do not want to go to Eastleigh games again. So well done you-- they r our future u should be very much our past
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Post by hantslondoner on Oct 14, 2017 17:52:10 GMT
Well done Hereford for a game plan that worked perfectly, looked a decent side. I wouldn't be surprised to see them in the NL in a couple of years. Support was impressive too, apart from the abuse for Hoyte.
Some thoughts: I think we missed Hollands in central midfield. I hear Togwell might be injured again, but he and Strevs were outmuscled today.
I thought Hoyte had a nightmare (not for the first time) - not marking his man for the second goal, having already failed to do so for a missed chance a few minutes before. And as for the red card - brainless. However, from my view on the far side, he was not to blame for Preen's injury (hope he's OK), despite what the Hereford fans thought. An unpleasant moment just after we restarted after the injury too, good job we got some stewards there quickly.
Red card for Andrew Boyce looked fair to me - he sat next to us in the stand in the second half, was genuinely gutted - seemed a nice and genuine bloke. Hope his partnership with Callum Howe will continue (i.e. that Howe will sign permanantly), it's one of the high points of the season so far for me.
Forwards tried hard but seemed to be well handled by the Hereford defence, not often we lose a physical battle. Seemed to be a lot expected from players coming back from injury.
RH subs today seemed fine to me - lots of effort, but far too many long balls, after we had made it 1-2, playing into their hands. The only way we were going to score was from a set-piece.
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Post by stadium on Oct 14, 2017 18:29:10 GMT
I'm a bit disappointed in Hoyte. As much as I can't blame him, I think it's pretty obvious he was intentionally being hard in that tackle and probably knew he was risking a red. Both red cards I knew were coming out of the refs pocket and both were rightly given. A lot of people saying Boyce's wasn't a read, but when you're basically the last man, you are asking for a red if you tackle like that. I'm glad Wood was playing further up again rather than left back, he caused a few problems until Hereford learned how to defend his one skill move. Would have liked to have seen Miley played, a central midfield with an average age of 35 doesn't create anything. I'm usually fair to refs, but this ref was incredibly suspicious. All these little fouls were given to them and not us, and each time one of their players went down they took ages to get back up (obvious the one injury was fair to stay down). Anyone able to say what happened with the injury and Hoyte incidents? I was the opposite corner so only made guesses.
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Post by bomber on Oct 14, 2017 18:36:37 GMT
Two leagues below & Hereford took the absolute PI$$... on & off the pitch.
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Post by nobadspitfire on Oct 14, 2017 18:43:25 GMT
Anyone able to say what happened with the injury and Hoyte incidents? I was the opposite corner so only made guesses. Hoyte tackled Preen fairly but hard, got the ball, but it was probably how Preen landed that did the damage. It was obvious straightaway that he was badly injured & Beano seemed to be involved in helping him from the start. After that incident, Hoyte got a lot of abuse from the Hereford fans, maybe some of it was racial? I'm not sure. But at the restart something was thrown at him, causing a further delay. Hoyte was really wound up in time added on by, probably a number of things, & made a poor tackle resulting in the red. Fully deserved, unprofessional, but made no difference to the result. |
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Post by stadium on Oct 14, 2017 18:46:11 GMT
Pretty much what I gathered then. I heard something was thrown at him. Completely unfair on him, you cant really blame him for reacting but just a shame really.
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Post by stadium on Oct 14, 2017 18:46:12 GMT
Pretty much what I gathered then. I heard something was thrown at him. Completely unfair on him, you cant really blame him for reacting but just a shame really.
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Post by bennyblueballs on Oct 14, 2017 18:55:28 GMT
Here’s Richard Hill not making excuses, obviously one dodgy free kick and the abuse of Hoyte are the only reasons we lost today. To be fair he almost admitted the quality of our play was the reason but just couldn’t bring himself to say it.
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Post by bomber on Oct 14, 2017 19:05:10 GMT
i'll tell you now, and sod you happy clapping shirt wearing, everything's great brigade
give RH time mob.,Barring 15 minutes near the end of the second half, that was awful. Absolute e need someone fresh to take the jpb on!!
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Post by slewmcg on Oct 14, 2017 19:09:00 GMT
Yeah boycey clear red to be fair. All the excuses valid I suppose if it was a one off that would be perfectly legitimate but we've been playing truly awful since at least the Leyton orient away game and even before then we weren't exactly playing exciting football creating chances and looking like we were going to win games of football. Annoys me how when we're chasing a last minute equaliser it's always down in our corner and we can't get out yet defending a lead you can guarentee an equaliser against us
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Post by spitfire9 on Oct 14, 2017 19:29:13 GMT
Moan about the team moan about the manager I know let's moan about the piss poor turn out. Where was the fans?
What was it £12 to much?
£5 for car parking?
Can't use a season ticket was a good one? well clearly no football fan if you don't know that happens at any club in the cup!!
Now on twitter some moron wants there money back **** sake!
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Post by back4more on Oct 14, 2017 19:40:40 GMT
I have affiliations with Hereford as well as being an Eastleigh supporter so I had hoped to see a memorable cup tie today.
My reservations began on entering the ground and seeing that the referee was Mr Brook. Mr Brook's previous appointments to Eastleigh matches have not gone well for Eastleigh. Today was no exception. I don't believe he understands football and I noticed at times that his fourth official seemed to be despairing of finding a rational explanation in the face of Richard Hill's enquiries as to Mr Brook's decision making. I think he can probably defend the red cards he gave but otherwise his handling of situations was inconsistent and often unfair.
That, though, is not an excuse for our exit from the FA Cup at the first attempt. In my opinion some of our players failed to perform to an acceptable standard.
The first goal was conceded after we gave away possession in the Bulls' half when we had players forward in space to build an attack but we just punted the ball around aimlessly in the air with a hope and a prayer. Unsurprisingly Hereford picked up a loose ball and took the initiative to win their fatal free kick in front of the Eastleigh goal before we could react. I don't think either Mr Hill or Mr Hessenthaler are teaching that kind of football in training.
The second followed some unbelievable Keystone Cops attempts to clear the ball from a fairly innocuous situation. No one took responsibility and in the melee that followed the Bulls were easily able to gain the initiative needed to bury the ball again.
The situation could have been worse without Michael Green's often excellent work including some quick one touch intuitive passing.
We allowed our best players to leave us last season - the key players in the side which we had patiently built over a few years. We know that the process of building that side was masterminded by RH. I think he has come back to try to get us back to that level of strength. Dismiss him at your peril.
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Post by bennyblueballs on Oct 14, 2017 20:01:11 GMT
The first goal was conceded after we gave away possession in the Bulls' half when we had players forward in space to build an attack but we just punted the ball around aimlessly in the air with a hope and a prayer. Unsurprisingly Hereford picked up a loose ball and took the initiative to win their fatal free kick in front of the Eastleigh goal before we could react. I don't think either Mr Hill or Mr Hessenthaler are teaching that kind of football in training. Given what I’ve seen this season, I think that must be exactly what they’re teaching in training and if not then their ability to get players to do as they’re asked has got to be severely questioned. These are the players RH signed/kept so he and they have to take responsibility. |
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Post by michaelefc on Oct 14, 2017 20:24:49 GMT
The referee can defend the first red card, but IMO it shouldn't have been a red. The player was running away from the goal when the tackle was made, and was not a clear goalscoring opportunity. I thought the referee had a very poor game, he consistently gave 50-50 decisions against Eastleigh, and was far too fussy. Just in case anyone is inclined to suggest I am blaming the referee for the result, I am not. We lost because we played poorly, pretty much for the whole game. Until we get some pace into this team we will continue to struggle. I'll be happy if we don't see this official again though.
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