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Post by bomber on Dec 6, 2020 20:23:03 GMT
I will guarantee as soon as crowds are back this knee nonsense will stop. They will be shouted down and in my view rightly so. Tick tock....
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Post by rocky on Dec 6, 2020 21:29:30 GMT
yeh i do wonder when they will stop all this nonsense. the days of bananas being thrown are long gone, there is not really racism in football anymore. time to move on. Well done to the millwall fans for making a stand
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Post by hantslondoner on Dec 6, 2020 21:52:17 GMT
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Post by nobadspitfire on Dec 7, 2020 16:27:53 GMT
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Post by ballboy on Dec 7, 2020 20:38:15 GMT
I totally agree with taking the knee if it brings change Martin but why not do the same for other injustices. I only wonder when it will end in some leagues(not National and below except when on TV I believe). Will it be 1,3,6 months or longer). I believe education and media visibility (which is happening) is the answer.
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Post by bomber on Dec 7, 2020 21:31:24 GMT
Because BLM is a Marxist organisation. Anyone who supports setting fire to the union flag or desecrating Churchill statue deserves all the discredit coming their way if you ask me. We've got the Kick it out campaign which I fully support. BLM I do not. Who are you or anyone else to judge someone on their stance on racism? I can despise racism without supporting left wing diatribe.
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Post by nobadspitfire on Dec 7, 2020 22:14:56 GMT
And which Republican/Fascist commentator told you BLM was a Marxist lead organisation? You must be a fan of that madman across the water. Or did you read it in the Sun, Mail or Express? The right wing truth twisters continue to work their magic on those who fear equality in all forms in society. Taking a knee is not done at all clubs and surely players at those clubs have the right to support it or not. It is not going to change the minds now of hardened racists, but it is a small harmless gesture which is supposed to show solidarity against racism. Millwall FC will support their players in the action & condemn those booing. You're inferring that Millwall FC and any other club and their players supporting such action have been taken over or influenced by the loony left. That seems a bit far fetched to me.
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Post by bomber on Dec 8, 2020 8:11:41 GMT
And which Republican/Fascist commentator told you BLM was a Marxist lead organisation? You must be a fan of that madman across the water. Or did you read it in the Sun, Mail or Express? The right wing truth twisters continue to work their magic on those who fear equality in all forms in society. Taking a knee is not done at all clubs and surely players at those clubs have the right to support it or not. It is not going to change the minds now of hardened racists, but it is a small harmless gesture which is supposed to show solidarity against racism. Millwall FC will support their players in the action & condemn those booing. You're inferring that Millwall FC and any other club and their players supporting such action have been taken over or influenced by the loony left. That seems a bit far fetched to me. I certainly didn't read it in a lefty comic that tries to play down the BLM movement involvement in Marxist policy! It doesn't take 5 minutes to follow the paper trail to Alicia Garzia, who by her own admittance is a 'trained marxist'....no, not all clubs have kneeled for the BLM movement, because it's a choice and in this country people are allowed a choice, to believe what they like and act to show approval or disapproval in a lawful way. I note that millwall are playing tonight and are cranking up the anti racism message, yet as far as I'm aware they're not backing BLM in any official way. Expect some kneeling from personal choice and vocal disapproval in equal measure.
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Post by nobadspitfire on Dec 8, 2020 9:27:00 GMT
From BLM UK website:- WE WELCOME ALL - We stand together across the globe to change the world, we kneel together in peace and solidarity asserting black people is treated as equals to white people. It is a human right to receive racial equality, social and criminal justice in the societies we live and to receive parity as full citizens of the country and as a united nation. We are a non-political, non-partisan, non-violence platform. Some content published on our website may have limited political content by the very nature of a country state governed and under a system of democracy. We operate in a humanitarian capacity and concern before all else.
What's not to like?
As regards Alicia Garzia, she's a political activist and being black in the USA that makes her a threat to the white Republican movement in their eyes, so they will automatically smear her in any way possible. I give you the example of Nelson Mandela. Need I say more?
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Post by bomber on Dec 8, 2020 10:14:23 GMT
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Post by nobadspitfire on Dec 8, 2020 11:09:03 GMT
"The Heritage Foundation (abbreviated to Heritage) is an American conservative think tank based in Washington, D.C., primarily geared towards public policy."
Says it all, really. I rest my case.
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Post by hantslondoner on Dec 8, 2020 12:16:31 GMT
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Post by bomber on Dec 8, 2020 13:05:50 GMT
"The Heritage Foundation (abbreviated to Heritage) is an American conservative think tank based in Washington, D.C., primarily geared towards public policy." Says it all, really. I rest my case. so suddenly being conservative makes one a racist now? Good Lord.
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Post by cure4type1 on Dec 8, 2020 17:31:41 GMT
Bomber, you are wasting your time, you will never be able to convince some people, they have their heads stuck in the sand. What really makes me laugh is that Nobadspitfire quotes from the BLM website, UNBELIEVABLE!!
Does he ignore or possibly forget the huge uproar when they removed their "What we believe" page"?
Why did they hide it?
It was radical left through and through, even to the extent that they believe children should be brought up communally and not in conventional families. A quote from their missing pages:
"We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and 'villages' that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable."
Lol! what is that if not Marxist.
Personally, I applaud the Milwall fans and all others who buck the WOKE leftie trend of the bended knee. The kick it out program has been massively successful and is supported by the vast majority, why try and force-feed the public, the majority of whom have the intellect to see right through this swerve to the left.
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Post by hantslondoner on Dec 8, 2020 17:46:26 GMT
'Millwall players will not take a knee before Tuesday's Championship fixture against QPR but will stand arm-in-arm in a "show of solidarity for football's fight against discrimination"'(BBC). We should not be separating and talking about political groups or tribes, we should be uniting and talking about a problem that has been in football since I can remember (and yes, the 70s/80s in London were grim) and still exists, even if some people fail to recognise that fact. Clearly it's not a problem just in football, but football reflects the wider society. Look at the wider picture. A black footballer tries to explain here what it means to him - on a human level, not a tribal or political one. www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55223935
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