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Post by stew5018 on Aug 16, 2018 18:12:58 GMT
Of course CORPORATE is what its about because that brings money to the Club we wouldn't otherwise have. Supporters have a choice and a free alternative which is where they used to go anyway. Getting sick of phrase 'prawn sandwich mob'. Its getting boring now and does not reflect the Club as a whole. EFC is a football club - loyalty in itself doesn't bring in enough revenue on its own. Its not forgotten- just there is a need to raise more money from people not usually there. Every team does it whatever league there in matter of necessity
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Post by hantslondoner on Aug 16, 2018 18:34:01 GMT
For those who don't want a beer, £3 for a cup of coffee and 'snacks' (what are they? please enlighten me) in nice surroundings sounds like a reasonable deal to me. If you want a beer, then you've got a choice of two bars, both with different atmospheres. Personally I wouldn't pay a £3 surcharge for drinking out of a glass, but each to their own.
The discussion about 'corporate' has been going on for ages. Having it keeps the club going, and will help keep the prices down for supporters who don't buy into that sort of thing.
Consider it a necessary evil if you must. A lot of people enjoy that sort of thing at a football club nowadays - even I find it quite nice once in a while.
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Post by michaelefc on Aug 16, 2018 19:33:50 GMT
Having been using the "corporate" facilities for some years, just to clarify one point, I have never been offered a prawn sandwich, and wouldn't want it if I was. The super poncey food that I can remember eating recently includes lasagne, chicken curry, chicken and rice and for puddings the none more poncey brownie and vanilla ice cream. We also swan about drinking tea and coffee, and some of us do even have a little wine. I have three tickets for the Brooks club, which with sponsorship of the woman's team, one of the youth teams and various other bits and pieces cost me a pretty penny. Anyone who cares to join me, just pm me and we'll meet up.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 5:58:16 GMT
And just to clarify Michael, it is not the corporate sponsors/people I am having a go at here. My point is the club has made the new building into a corporate facility. When I look at it like that I just think why bother throwing £2m to build it and not allowing free entrance in Sherwoods for home fans.
And for the record I'm tired of some fans on here who think I am one of the take take brigade who wants everything for free and giving nothing back. I've just checked my wardrobe, there are 17 Eastleigh football shirts, 4 Eastleigh casual shirts, 1 Winter Eastleigh jacket, 1 Eastleigh track top jacket, An Eastleigh football scarf (plus one I gave away to The Spitfire Pub to hang behind the bar with the words "SPITFIRES") and an Eastleigh coffee/tea mug. I also have a framed Eastleigh football shirt autographed by the team and manager of 2010/11 on the wall. This is alongside the many hundreds of games I've paid to watch, and spent money over the bar before and after games, as well as a pint at half time.
Each to their own of course in supporting the club, but I am no taker, or free loader, just to get that off my chest. Thank you.
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Post by ianjelly on Aug 17, 2018 9:25:13 GMT
Keith you have really got me scratching my head,the way l see it the club is making it a members club the same as a social club,This was a SD vision when he was here.l cannot see what your problem is or others it's the same as you joining the workinmens club which there's certainly not much difference in prices to pub prices or l repeat l can not see what the problem is,you either like it and pay or you don't,and look at other options simply really.
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Post by bomber on Aug 17, 2018 11:02:00 GMT
My point is the club has made the new building into a corporate facility. Nearly half of the ground has become designed for the corporate/sit down be quiet, travel rug brigade. The atmosphere is absolutely crap.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 11:36:15 GMT
Keith you have really got me scratching my head,the way l see it the club is making it a members club the same as a social club,This was a SD vision when he was here.l cannot see what your problem is or others it's the same as you joining the workinmens club which there's certainly not much difference in prices to pub prices or l repeat l can not see what the problem is,you either like it and pay or you don't,and look at other options simply really.
Ian my good friend, you see half my point but not the other half!! Yes I pay £10 a year membership of my local club, but they don’t charge me at the door to go in every time. Whereas you pay to get into the ground every time and expect you to then pay £3 again to enter a bar. That’s my point mate.
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Post by stew5018 on Aug 17, 2018 14:55:36 GMT
No where on my ticket does it give me authority to do anything other than watch the football match. It does not give automatic entry to Sherwoods. Sherwoods is a seperate entity. If you want that luxury then like everywhere else you pay for it. Its a simple choice -if you don't want to use it don't.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2018 18:55:26 GMT
No where on my ticket does it give me authority to do anything other than watch the football match. It does not give automatic entry to Sherwoods. Sherwoods is a seperate entity. If you want that luxury then like everywhere else you pay for it. Its a simple choice -if you don't want to use it don't. Does your ticket say anything about using the toilet? Do you need their authority to do so? You say it does nothing except say you watch the football...how about breathing eh? It really is pathetic don't you think to question what exactly it says on your ticket. It's little wonder Eastleigh are losing so many fans, there is no common sense anymore.
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Post by unknownquantity on Aug 18, 2018 6:54:46 GMT
For me the clubhouse experience is an important part of the matchday and I usually visit both bars when I attend games. I think there is some concern about an expensively purchased building becoming almost exclusively a corporate area.
However in principle I think it is good to give people choices. I do not go to many away games, but when I do I sometimes pay an extra amount to sit in the stand as it is my preferred option. No-one is forced to pay this extra amount as in tis case with Sherwoods.
What is clear though is that the club is charging Southern League prices to watch National League football and in order to be able to sustain that other sources of income need to be found.
I personally think that it is time to move on from the Stewart Donald scenario. He was in my view approachable and willing to accommodate fans even if it meant inefficient use of his time and I think that probably caught up with him to a degree. I attended a meeting a year and a half ago where he expressed his frustration at being used to sort out fans arguments in the Eastleigh Town Centre, support people with their personal issues etc and that he needed to seep back a bit from that.
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Post by nkc on Aug 18, 2018 7:35:59 GMT
In your above example paying for entry to sit down in the stand just generates income, having to pay to go into a bar may generate some income but could be stifling the very reason the facility is there in terms of sales. As I mentioned earlier I think the analysis here, for the owners, is the pay to enter income and combined profit from Sherwood's and the Hangar compared to previous profits in the two bars at similar sized attendances before a charge was put in place. This will either set the alarm bells ringing for them or give them a nice warm feeling. It does not effect me at all as I do not drink in either facility and can still happily use the tea bars but it is not as simple as you pay your money and you are contributing to the club is it. The overall picture may be rosy in which case all is fine, if a fall off in use is very costly then a re-think will be needed sometime in the future.
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Post by ballboy on Aug 18, 2018 8:47:38 GMT
Why is this thread still going - maybe hoping to to beat the number of posts on the previous parking thread. Let’s talk football ⚽️🔵
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Post by hantslondoner on Aug 18, 2018 8:48:02 GMT
There are plenty of other threads for football - interestingly, I don't see many of them very busy at the moment?!
nkc - agree. It's a business - if the additional charge to Sherwood's means a drop in income/profit, then they will revisit the pricing structure. Not neglecting those who paid £50 for a season's entry to it, I hope. I reiterate - the customer at Eastleigh has a choice as to what they do, and their choice will influence the business decisions. Market forces and all that. unknownquantity: 'What is clear though is that the club is charging Southern League prices to watch National League football and in order to be able to sustain that other sources of income need to be found'. Agree with this too, although I would argue that Southern League prices are too high, if they're charging £12, which is why many of them get poor crowds. Personally, I think the prices that Eastleigh are charging for NL football are about right, and it is some of the others whose charges are taking the p*ss. And yes, we do need to accept that we are no longer in the SD era - both sides need to accept this (most seem to, to be fair). The board will make different decisions, some of them popular, some of them not so popular (maybe also some good, some not so good). Supporters also need to accept that the parameters have changed with the club, and despite the legacy that has been left, it need to be managed very carefully in order to sustain a NL club in this area (especially if you look at the large proportion of ST holders, some of whom are probably there because it's a good price - if the price of a ST goes up significantly, we could be looking at sub-1000 crowds). Therefore the importance of 'external' revenue from corporate facilities and the like (which SD has set up for us) cannot be underestimated.
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