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Post by back4more on Nov 20, 2017 21:17:58 GMT
First things first. I am an Eastleigh FC supporter first second and third. I am not a Richard Hill "supporter" whatever that means; but in as far as any player/manager/staff is working for the club I support them. The comments RH made about the fans was unfortunate. However he sounded to me like a depressed man, who is just trying to keep going. At the moment it is obvious life is very difficult for the man, and we should respect that. Ironically what he said about the fans has been said on this forum previously. It is true at times, it does feel like a cemetery. I don't know how long RH will stay in charge, I suspect no-one outside of RH and SD know that. What I do know is that booing is totally pointless and counter productive. All that does is make players feel nervous, nervous players make mistakes. I suggest for tomorrows game, we all do the best we can to put the last years horrors behind us, and lets start with a clean slate. I know there are folks on here who would like to see Eastleigh lose, I also know the vast majority just wish the club well. So I suggest tomorrow, we make the effort to turn up, we support the team, and see where it leads. Good luck boys. That's just about right I reckon. If Arsene Wenger or his ilk make off the cuff remarks about the negativity of their support then fire away and take their million pound bonuses away but we are NON LEAGUE!!!!. If the owner has a few pennies more than his peers then great but don't expect as of right that we should get Premier League diplomacy. I reckon we get exactly what we deserve. Now, what would I do on the football side if I was Mr Donald? One option could be to promote Paul Reid to work alongside Richard Hill. I am not sure I can exactly justify that but I just think there's a complementary dynamic there. Reid has empathy and also thinks on his feet. Hill has - dare I say it again- enormous knowledge and expertise. Andy H has given great support and I would love to see him leading the player development side of the club plus talent spotting.
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Nov 20, 2017 21:32:37 GMT
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Post by willk on Nov 20, 2017 21:32:37 GMT
There’s some sh.it spoken here ‘ enormous knowledge and expertise’ How can anyone on this planet take our league position, results, general performances and style of play and come up with that statement???
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Post by ballboy on Nov 20, 2017 21:58:18 GMT
And of course Michael it doesn’t matter if it’s a turgid dull depressing 1-0 win does it? That’ll get the fans flocking back. At the moment a depressing 1 v 0 win would be OK,although would definitely prefer an exciting game, but we need results and SD would surely echo's the words of the WBA Chairman when Pulis was sacked "We are in a results business and over the back end of last season and this season to date, ours have been very disappointing". Now you might say OK we can do the same and get rid of Hilly but the question is we obviously haven't got the pulling power of a Premier League team so our replacement would not have the same quality and calibre of player to work with. BTW i am not yet calling for a new manager but agree that come December/January that if things haven't improved this may change.
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Post by rocky on Nov 20, 2017 22:10:23 GMT
1-0 sounds good to me. If we can get all wins untill our next home game with bromley then the crowds WILL start flocking back
will i can dream of us winning a few games in a row can't i?
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Hill Out
Nov 20, 2017 22:12:30 GMT
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Post by willk on Nov 20, 2017 22:12:30 GMT
I’ve got some nice Robert Mugabe commemorative coins you can buy
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Nov 20, 2017 22:30:34 GMT
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Post by glenfish on Nov 20, 2017 22:30:34 GMT
RH, you're well out of order having a go at the paying fans! Booing is wrong in my view, but you weren't referring to that but other instances? Poor performances? Enough is enough for everyone's sake? The fans weren't responsible or involved in what's happened to the club over the past yr or so, many enjoyed it as it was, not looking for expansion, bigger stands etc The fans have had a rough ride watching these events and maybe, should deserve better?
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Post by romseypete on Nov 20, 2017 22:42:35 GMT
I suggest that we all stand in silence tomorrow as apparently you cannot show emotion at a football match, what a load of bollo@ks,
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Post by back4more on Nov 20, 2017 23:14:13 GMT
There’s some sh.it spoken here ‘ enormous knowledge and expertise’ How can anyone on this planet take our league position, results, general performances and style of play and come up with that statement??? I don't think willk you would know knowledge and expertise if it came up and hit you in the face. You probably have more posts on this forum in a week than most of us make in a year. You probably make fewer constructive contributions in a year than many people make in any given post. I can guarantee that you will respond with venom but without reason. But please forgive me if I don't give a flying fig.
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Hill Out
Nov 21, 2017 7:08:22 GMT
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Post by willk on Nov 21, 2017 7:08:22 GMT
Back for more -no venom at all. I think you demonstrate perfectly why people leave this forum in droves. Aren’t we allowed to say anything against your ‘darling hilly’? Is this another case of any ‘unsafe’ opinions not being welcome? There is little expertise and knowledge pal otherwise we’d not be in this situation. Make the most of your messiah as he’s got about a week left boring the sh.it out of us all.
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Post by huricaneharry on Nov 21, 2017 7:52:29 GMT
What has Hill achieved as a manager that gives him the right to blame us loyal fans, he’s achieved very little. The only time he spoke with any real authority was when he left stating he had taken the club as far as he could. That is proving to be well chosen and correct . I believe SD took him back purely because he panicked and this is proving to be a disastrous move. It’s all very well in building facilities fit for league football, but we need a manager and a team good enough to achieve that goal, we ain’t got that. Our owner needs to take stock and reevaluate the position his decisions have put the club in. It never works having your mates work for you and definitely not in the case of Hill. Get rid ASAP. SD May own the club, but the mighty Spitfires belong to the supporters and always will.
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Post by westendspitfire on Nov 21, 2017 8:09:35 GMT
Back for more -no venom at all. I think you demonstrate perfectly why people leave this forum in droves. Aren’t we allowed to say anything against your ‘darling hilly’? Is this another case of any ‘unsafe’ opinions not being welcome? There is little expertise and knowledge pal otherwise we’d not be in this situation. Make the most of your messiah as he’s got about a week left boring the sh.it out of us all. Another classic Will quote 😅😅 Exactly which people have left this forum in droves? Seems to me more then ever are actually commenting. This is despite the abusive crap you keep spouting 😆😆 You are perfectly entitled to your opinions and you share them liberally. You are the only one abusing others for their opinion. I call bull**** Sir. RH is going nowhere the Chairman has told you that so you can keep sharing your opinion and abusing others who don't agree but it ain't going to get you what you want, although I suspect it is the abusing others bit that really pleases you. Have a lovely day Sir look forward to seeing you tonight 😉
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Nov 21, 2017 8:21:32 GMT
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Post by willk on Nov 21, 2017 8:21:32 GMT
Ha, really not abusive at all. As for leaving in droves, only picking up on the other forum and the consensus on there. “Hills going nowhere” oh, I think you’re wrong there.
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Post by michaelefc on Nov 21, 2017 8:24:14 GMT
A great many of the angry posts on here, are simply because the fans love the club, and are so frustrated at what has been happening over the last year. It is totally understandable why Richard Hill is getting such short shrift; RH will know that more than anyone. But it is obvious that he is really struggling at the moment, and while he stays in charge, for however long that will be, the club will best be served by us supporting the club and not insulting the manager, or booing the players.
No-one is more frustrated than me; but lets get behind our club tonight, help them earn 3 precious points, and lets start moving up the table together.
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Nov 21, 2017 8:39:34 GMT
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Post by romseypete on Nov 21, 2017 8:39:34 GMT
I will be supporting the team tonight, but we can’t have another performance like Saturday, RH must of leant something from the reaction he got and I do expect a better showing, otherwise he will find out as people are now getting restless
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Post by hantslondoner on Nov 21, 2017 9:00:23 GMT
I wonder if/how much RH and SD read our fora nowadays?
Since RH gets a lot of stick, then he's perfectly entitled to give some back, although his post-Barrow comments seemed guaranteed to alienate supporters as well as detractors. Shows the pressure he must be under.
People like back4more remember what RH has done for the club over several years, how much work he's put in, and also not to underestimate he fact that he can work with the chairman (it's not a given that everyone will be able to do so). RH deserves respect, no matter what the situation is now. We also don't know, for example, whether RH would rather leave and whether SD is persuading him to stay on..... not impossible at the moment.
I think many people agree that he's struggling at the moment and is not showing that he is the man to take us forward; the NL having changed in the last couple of years and we are getting left behind on the pitch. I think the only thing most of us disagree on is when a change should be made, and how it should be made.
And the discussion is getting unnecessarily nasty, not for the first time. As usual it distracts from the discussion. I'm sometimes surprised the moderator does not get involved ;-)
The other question is whether we should be directing our criticism at the manager or the players? Are the players actually doing what the manager asks them to do? Are there problems behind the scenes?
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