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Post by tenacres on May 3, 2017 19:37:46 GMT
Given the last 3 managerial appointments have all gone pretty wrong in a short space of time, I think its understandable that people are a bit unsure about this one - whoever had been appointed!
Next season might be a long way away but a heck of lot of work to do before then to get a squad together that can challenge for promotion.
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Post by bigwing on May 4, 2017 12:30:43 GMT
Given the last 3 managerial appointments have all gone pretty wrong in a short space of time, I think its understandable that people are a bit unsure about this one - whoever had been appointed! Next season might be a long way away but a heck of lot of work to do before then to get a squad together that can challenge for promotion. At least our appointments seems to have pleased Gillingham fans. Looking at their forums they were worried they would be getting AH back to replace Pennock.
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Post by bitterneparker on May 4, 2017 17:29:47 GMT
Quite surprised that Hessenthaler hasn't been named as the manager & Hill his understudy bearing in mind his greater experience.
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Post by back4more on May 4, 2017 19:05:20 GMT
Quite surprised that Hessenthaler hasn't been named as the manager & Hill his understudy bearing in mind his greater experience. Why on earth would Richard Hill want to recruit someone as his boss? He agreed to take the manager role himself and then went about appointing an assistant and other staff as required. I was glad to see he tied up AH so quickly as his assistant. Andy's experience will make him an excellent assistant I would think.
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Post by bitterneparker on May 4, 2017 22:07:58 GMT
So if he's offered a managers job at levels 4,5 or 6 I'd imagine Hessenthaler would be off,after all RH has had three jobs this season alone.
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Post by back4more on May 5, 2017 8:06:36 GMT
I'm getting a bit lost with your reasoning here bitterneparker. Are you suggesting RH should have recruited an assistant who no one else might want? Perhaps we should be a bit careful as well not to recruit any players who are any good in case they might be off somewhere else? Are you Martin Allen in disguise?
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Post by unknownquantity on May 6, 2017 6:52:35 GMT
Generally when a number 2 is recruited it is someone who is less experienced at the level of football they are being recruited for than the number 1. Andy has been a number 1 at both Gillingham and Leyton Orient in the football league and Dover in the National League South and has more experience of being a number 1 than a number 2.
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Post by michaelefc on May 6, 2017 7:33:38 GMT
Surely what matters is RH and AH being happy with the arrangement. If they are, why should we have a problem with it?
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Post by tyreman on May 6, 2017 9:07:10 GMT
Surely what matters is RH and AH being happy with the arrangement. If they are, why should we have a problem with it? And, when all is up and running - maybe it will take a season then, maybe RH will drop in the DOF roll and AH take over as manager - who knows??
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Post by unknownquantity on May 6, 2017 9:56:12 GMT
My post was partly an answer to a question, and it is very right that how the arrangement works that is important. Of course Jamie Day was Assistant Manager at Forest Green when he had previously achieved success as a number 1.
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Post by back4more on May 6, 2017 10:09:23 GMT
My post was partly an answer to a question, and it is very right that how the arrangement works that is important. Of course Jamie Day was Assistant Manager at Forest Green when he had previously achieved success as a number 1. Thanks for clarifying that Malcy. For a minute I thought you were suggesting that AH was the wrong man for the job and that RH should have appointed a less experienced assistant manager. I'd agree it's more usual for the assistant to have less experience than the manager but I suspect that's down to who you can get to do the assistant job. I think getting Andy Hessenthaler is quite a coup and he will be able to take on a lot of the day to day things which do need management skills and experience. I have seen quite a few so called assistant managers who haven't really taken a proper share of responsibility. Tyreman I'm surprised you are already envisaging RH handing over the reins to AH after a season. Can't really see the logic in that to be honest.
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Post by michaelefc on May 6, 2017 11:00:38 GMT
At the end of the day, we are just talking about job titles. The key thing is the guys can get along together, have similar ideas about the team, and can divide up the jobs in a way both are happy with. In football we don't know what's happening next week, let alone who might be manager in August 2018! So I wouldn't worry too much about that one.
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Post by tyreman on May 6, 2017 15:54:05 GMT
My post was partly an answer to a question, and it is very right that how the arrangement works that is important. Of course Jamie Day was Assistant Manager at Forest Green when he had previously achieved success as a number 1. Thanks for clarifying that Malcy. For a minute I thought you were suggesting that AH was the wrong man for the job and that RH should have appointed a less experienced assistant manager. I'd agree it's more usual for the assistant to have less experience than the manager but I suspect that's down to who you can get to do the assistant job. I think getting Andy Hessenthaler is quite a coup and he will be able to take on a lot of the day to day things which do need management skills and experience. I have seen quite a few so called assistant managers who haven't really taken a proper share of responsibility. Tyreman I'm surprised you are already envisaging RH handing over the reins to AH after a season. Can't really see the logic in that to be honest. We shall just have to wait and see won't we.
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