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Post by tenacres on May 17, 2018 20:25:49 GMT
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Post by michaelefc on May 17, 2018 21:15:24 GMT
Only interested in how it affects EFC. For what its worth, IMO the only way the SD and Sunderland romance is going to end, is in tears - but not really my concern.
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Post by thelake on May 17, 2018 21:44:45 GMT
Sounds to me like he may have biten off more than he can chew
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2018 6:24:26 GMT
Sunderland, Newcastle, and Middlesborough, three clubs with massive fan bases, Sunderland and Newcastle owned by billionaires, Middlesborough owned by a very rich Steve Gibson, none of these clubs get anywhere near success except regularly being relegated and getting promoted back is all they keep achieving for their fans. Newcastle last won a trophy 49 years ago, Sunderland 45 years. I still marvel at what Leicester did, the most incredible football story any of us will ever have seen. When Blackburn won the title Jack Walker was the first multi-millionaire to splash his considerable wealth and bought the title, it started the trend of big owners coming in and if Amanda Staveley does get hold of Newcastle you can expect SD and Sunderland to be in their shadow as they won't be able to complete.
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Post by huricaneharry on May 18, 2018 17:06:00 GMT
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Post by efc21 on May 18, 2018 19:48:31 GMT
FA have approved Stewart Donald’s Sunderland takeover
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Post by tenacres on May 18, 2018 19:55:54 GMT
Latest I have seen from Sunderland about 3 hours ago: www.safc.com/news/club-news/2018/may/statement-regarding-club-ownership"Following a meeting with the EFL on Friday, and the provision of further information, we can now confirm that the proposed sale of the club could be concluded as early as next week. We would like to place on record our thanks to the EFL for their assistance during the process, at what is a very busy time of the football calendar for them. We are unable to make further comment at this time." |
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Post by efc21 on May 18, 2018 20:34:24 GMT
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Post by unknownquantity on May 19, 2018 5:53:24 GMT
I would say that how Sunderland perform with Stewart Donald at the helm is at least as difficult as to saying how Eastleigh will perform without him.
Sunderland have only three times in the last 62 years finished in the top half of the top flight, so if they establish themselves as a mid-table Premiership outfit that should go down well. This is also only their second season at the level they currently play at, so their fans will expect promotion to be achieved quickly.
Their fans have long memories and the late Jimmy Hill is best remembered by Sunderland fans for what happened 41 years ago. Lawrie McMenemy also once left Southampton and Sunderland with the subsequent quote that neither the Titanic or Lawrie should have left Southampton.
Two of the best things Stewart has done at Eastleigh is build up the fan base and develop the stadium, but I do not expect he needs to do that at Sunderland.
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Post by michaelefc on May 19, 2018 7:05:51 GMT
if they establish themselves as a mid-table Premiership outfit that should go down well
Your post unknowquantity sums up the problem SD faces. Given that they are currently a league 1 club, if SD guides them to a solid premier league position, he will have done, very very well indeed, but that is the minimum that will be expected. I doubt he will survive the season if Sunderland don't get promoted. My betting is they will not go up next year and won't be a premier league club within 5 seasons.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2018 8:09:11 GMT
Sunderland will go up Michael, absolutely no doubt about it. I might agree with you on them not being a Premier club in five years though...they are a yo yo club, so they may well be down again by then :-)
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Post by hantslondoner on May 19, 2018 8:58:08 GMT
SD's role at Sunderland may will probably be different to what it was at Eastleigh.
We are not clear how much influence he will have on the playing side; apart from organising the club to provide funds for players, a new manager, etc., we don't know how much he will be involved.
At Eastleigh, I also don't really know how much influence he's had on which players we bought here/what contracts we offered them.
With managers, he clearly had a lot more influence.
But our record in both areas in the last few years is 'pretty variable', and in the last two years, where the emphasis was seemingly to 'buy the league', a lot of mistakes were made, as SD himself acknowledges. Before that (Conf South, and early Nat League), things looked much better.
My personal view is that if SD has got a lot of influence on the playing/managerial side at Sunderland he'd better pick the right people, who know the league, and the area, and he'd better give them room to make the changes necessary. From the Eastleigh experience he may be more successful at restoring pride on Wearside rather than making the step up after that.
My (complete) guess is that they'll go up next season (maybe a lucky one via the playoffs, after a slow start, but it all counts) and then a period of consolidation in the Championship would be good before the attempt to get back into the PL.
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Post by michaelefc on May 19, 2018 9:26:01 GMT
Sunderland will go up Michael, absolutely no doubt about it.
I will remind you of that Keith!
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Post by unknownquantity on May 20, 2018 0:26:12 GMT
The only time Sunderland were relegated to football's third tier they were promoted straight away. Established premier Division clubs Man City, Leicester and Southampton were also quickly promoted when they played at the level Sunderland currently do.
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Post by spitfire9 on May 21, 2018 17:17:27 GMT
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