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Post by michaelefc on Dec 6, 2017 20:21:29 GMT
Too many goals and chances for you Michael. People actually enjoyed themselves.
I would have enjoyed that we won the game - but I don't only want to win the games that don't matter. Now if we win Saturday, I will be delighted; and to save you saying it I will delighted if we win 1-0 in the worst game of football seen in the history of the National. I just want to win (PS just like every one of the players and the manager- they won't give a stuff how we win either). Crikey we've won 5 league games all season! We are in no position to be fussy how we win.
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Post by christopher on Dec 6, 2017 20:47:16 GMT
A boring one nil will do just nicely, even though it may come about from a "turgid" performance. Oh damn, I do believe I have caught the Wiilk disease by using the word "turgid".
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Post by willk on Dec 6, 2017 21:37:12 GMT
Think there is something wrong with you both. How on earth can you blatantly keep espousing the virtues of rubbish drab football as long as we scrape a 1-0 win? Is that the limit of your ambition for the club and how do you think this sells our brand to new supporters which the Club desperately needs if it’s to fill this big, redeveloped expensive stadium. Think you’re both talking complete garbage.
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Post by willk on Dec 6, 2017 21:44:53 GMT
Oh and Michael, we know Richard Hill doesn’t care less how we win and how the team plays-that’s why the vast majority on here want him out. To not want to be entertained in your leisure time is an alien concept to most people.
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Post by rocky on Dec 6, 2017 22:02:05 GMT
cowley didn't/doesn't care how lincoln win. Martin allen didn't care how barnet won either.
successful teams put everything into winning. win it all costs.
This is professional football here mate, we are not talking about friendlies and testimonial matches
if hilly can somehow muster up 3 or 4 wins no one at EFC (bar possibly you - though I still don't believe you are actually a watching fan) will give a sh!t how the wins come
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Post by unknownquantity on Dec 6, 2017 22:02:35 GMT
Perhaps it is worth noting that Bournemouth Poppies are four divisions below Eastleigh and that their results in their division are similar to their own.
Sixteen years ago Eastleigh were a mid-table Wessex League team and although I know a lot of people have been unimpressed by the football this season, I think it is a lot better than it was 16 years ago.
Actually I see the issue of entertainment versus results has also been raised on the Winchester forum, after they lost 5-4 to Salisbury to a late goal in a very entertaining game in which were they at one stage 3-0 up, whereas the first half of Saturday's game which they won 2-0 was virtually devoid of goalmouth action.
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Post by willk on Dec 6, 2017 22:08:53 GMT
Ok Craig, so in your spare time you love paying money to be bored? What does that say about you as a person? Will never agree with that philosophy at all. Thankfully the greatest managers of the greatest clubs didn’t either otherwise football wouldn’t have become the global brand it is today. I’m assuming sky pay billions every year to screen dull boring games?
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Post by rocky on Dec 6, 2017 22:23:37 GMT
I live in Eastleigh and follow my home town. for years I only watched us now and again and lately i have become a regular.
i like the atomosphere and i like to stand too. i like a couple of drinks and a day out, my lad enjoys coming too. must be honest the price attracts too, a season ticket is a no brainer at absolulttely great value. its non league football so entertainment is not always the best, be realsitic. its my club so I want us to win, simple as. when we are 1 up in the last few mins do we care about entertainment, no we just want the final whistle to go for 3 points.
when we get a late goal to grab a point or 3 do we care if it is off a backside or a top volley, no, we react just the same, we love it - we are eastleigh.
its local football mate, our club, our town we are a part of it. It ain't about entertainment, you just don't get it
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Post by willk on Dec 6, 2017 22:30:16 GMT
‘ It ain’t about entertainment’ You’re one in a million you are. Hope your lads got a few more brain cells then his dad, but I’m not counting on it.
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Post by slewmcg on Dec 7, 2017 0:28:48 GMT
Nice to see the same "it's all about entertainment" arguement appear on the 35th thread in a row
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Post by bennyblueballs on Dec 7, 2017 6:36:56 GMT
Nice to see the same "it's all about entertainment" arguement appear on the 35th thread in a row Agreed! It's starting to remind me of the classic Monty Python 'Argument Clinic' sketch BUT I sense a breakthrough is imminent, given another 121 threads I reckon they'll just agree to disagree.
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Post by willk on Dec 7, 2017 7:12:39 GMT
Ha, I totally agree with you. It’s the people who say with such total certainty that nobody cares how football is played as if it’s a god given fact. I think it does matter, I think that’s what fans pay good money for up and down the land, to have a smile put on their faces after a hard week at work,to see skill, pace and goalmouth action. I will never change that belief when I see teams like Man Utd under Ferguson, Man City under guardiola and even wolves all playing the game in an attacking beautiful way.
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Post by michaelefc on Dec 7, 2017 8:29:58 GMT
I was actually at the QPR v Wolves game earlier this season. It was a terrific game fabulous for the neutral and being a QPR fan, fabulous for me too. It was open and end to end and could easily have ended 5-5. The bloke next to me said it was the best game he had seen in the last 5 seasons. After the game I was sat near a large gaggle of Wolves fans, they were spitting blood at the Wolves performance, and complaining at the room their team had given QPR. Strangely I heard not one of them mention what an entertaining game it was.
The idea that Eastleigh care about entertainment, given where we are is frankly ludicrous.
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Post by hantslondoner on Dec 7, 2017 8:31:46 GMT
I think you'll have to accept that there are different types of football fans. Two differing types seem to be appearing here.
There are those who go to a game because they like the game of football and want to be entertained, see lots of action, goals, maybe a close finish, etc. Allegiance to the teams that are playing is maybe more secondary to that. You can call them 'floating fans', or 'disloyal', but there are fans like that at the Silverlake. They may still have a great love for their team, but can also see the 'big picture'. They may also go and watch other matches, particularly when Eastleigh aren't playing/are away.
Then there are fans that put their allegiance to their team first, no matter what, and don't mind how they get the result, as long as the get the result. You can call them 'tribalist', you can say 'love is blind', but the fact remains that there are fans like that at the Silverlake, and football clubs need them too.
It would be nice, of course, to have both entertainment and good results...
But depending on the situation at the club at the time, you may only get one and not the other, sometimes neither. As michaelefc says, If a team is struggling then they will often get back to basics until they get some decent results, which then adds confidence to the team, then they can play a more expansive style and entertain as well. I think most people would agree that Eastleigh are at the beginning of this cycle at the moment.
Some fans will therefore be patient with this and see their patience as investment for the good times they think they will get in the future, some won't.
For the record, I went to Winchester v (HSC Cup holders Basingstoke) on Tuesday (3-3, Winchester won on penalties) and was pretty entertained. I also saw at least one other person I know from the Silverlake there ;-) I didn't fancy watching half a first-choice Eastleigh team either coast to an easy win over Wessex opposition or struggle against them (sounds like I'd have got both). And of course I had a chance to look over potential next-round opponents ;-)
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Post by newman123 on Dec 7, 2017 9:58:37 GMT
After reading the thread. Glad I didn’t go,(Tbf never go to those type of cup games) when will we change our ways?
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