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Post by badger on Nov 19, 2017 10:10:33 GMT
LOST to Hereford BEAT Gateshead LOST to Solihul DREW with Chester LOST to Barrow
On paper, at home these represent games we should be winning.
The above results are simply not good enough. How are we supposed to progress up the league and grow the fan base etc if we cannot win at home?
If Richard Hill genuinely cares for the club above his own self-interest then as DOF he must realise that these results are not good enough and that it is time for him to stand aside and find the man better equipped to take us forward.
HILL OUT
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Post by westendspitfire on Nov 19, 2017 11:58:01 GMT
So if you get your wish Badger where do we go next?
We barely tried a young Manager, but most people wanted rid in a short space of time and then have had serious Managerial experience since September 2016.
If we get another new Manager how many of the current playing squad will he want to play?
Personally I am disappointed in the comments RH uses and yesterday it should have been a straightforward the players let us down.
I still feel however that the problems we are seeing on the pitch are a result of the series of cock ups made on the financial front last season and I'm not sure more change is the answer.
Appreciate good players are hard to come by in November but the signings we are making are saying 'we're not sure but we'll give you a go' because you are not too expensive.
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Post by granmist on Nov 19, 2017 12:07:46 GMT
In my opinion it's Hills style and play is the problem, who brings on a defender, and takes off a young good midfielder when we are 2-0 down with 10 mins to go
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Post by westendspitfire on Nov 19, 2017 12:35:58 GMT
Not sure that substitution was a mistake, in fact it sort of made sense and nearly worked. Miley had worked his backside off with little support and must have been knackered. Ayo was brought on to give us more presence on the corners and I'm sure it was his shot that the keeper saved well towards the end.
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Post by hantslondoner on Nov 19, 2017 13:19:38 GMT
Agree about Ayo - I think his best feature is that he's dangerous up front at set pieces.
I did in fact predict that substitution about five minutes before he did it. Made a change from the predictable 'let's bring on Macca and hoof the ball up to him'. I'd rather have seen Ayo further forward, in fact, partnering Ben Williamson.
I still haven't seen RH's interview but if he blamed the fands for booing then he's out of order - I think they've been very patient at matches this season so far (not on the forum, though). I'd like to know whether it's the quality (and amount) of players, the players not carrying out his tactics, or his tactics, that he thinks is the problem?
I have no idea who would replace him if he left, so I think he's still the man for the job, which is to get through the season still in the NL. Sadly, apart from a possible Trophy run, I think this season has been written off. Even earlier than last season.
As I keep saying, it's decisions made over the summer for next season that will be the most interesting...
Of the five home games mentioned above, I'd say as a neutral two were fairly entertaining, two were average, with yesterday's game being the least entertaining.
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Post by willk on Nov 19, 2017 14:04:50 GMT
I think that last post is too apologetic for a guy who clearly has no clue what he’s doing and has turned on every sector rather than himself. Reminds me of a ailing dictator who still rants and raves in his underground bunker. Totally irrelevant what these Richard Hill apologists think, he’ll be gone by Christmas. Best thing that can happen is Eastleigh get stuffed 5-0 and that ends all the debate once and for all.
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Post by hantslondoner on Nov 19, 2017 14:17:46 GMT
You think that's an apologist post? I certainly didn't mean it to be. The only positive statement in there was about bringing Ayo on instead of usual Macca 'hoof and hope' option. If RH is starting to criticise the fans than he's definitely lost the plot.
But tell me someone who could replace him mid-season to achieve the club's aims for this season with the same resources. And work with the chairman. Someone who can take the club forward for next season. I suspect there won't be many managers who actually want to come here, either, given the history with managers over the last 18 months, the reduced budget, and the current squad.
If RH goes, he'll probably be moved upstairs, replaced by Hess. Will that be better (just asking the question)?
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Post by back4more on Nov 19, 2017 16:21:57 GMT
Nope it definitely wouldn't. I agree on the Ayo substitution being the best option yesterday. Overall it's clear that we don't have the depth of quality in the squad that we need. BTW does anyone know where Gary McSheffrey was yesterday? I thought he had been proving a positive influence over recent games, not withstanding his great antiquity. I did see Danny Hollands come into the stand with the rested and wounded but not McSheffrey. Having those two suddenly going missing yesterday didn't help at all. I also agree that we have a problem at full back on both sides. As you say, 'who would want it?'. On another thread, (which is where I should probably comment on it but want to watch some footy on Sky so can't be hopping around), someone has made a point about whether there is an opportunity to cancel Reda Johnson's contract. From a technical legal standpoint there might be but I don't think our owner is into exploiting legal loopholes when it comes to anyone who is working for him. What I also wonder is whether that kind of scenario might have some advantage for the player if he was looking to want to move himself. With his Eastleigh registration cancelled he could be signed up quite easily elsewhere as a free agent and even able to nego his own sign on fee. Very handy if he then miraculously recovered from his injuries and became 100% fit again.
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Post by slewmcg on Nov 19, 2017 16:46:43 GMT
Just heard pardew say about the West Ham job a set of players that are underachieving a good set up at board level makes it a lot easier for an incoming manager and most people would jump at the chance. I know that's premier league level but in comparative terms sounds like us - good set up backstage, underachieving players, competitive budget, so why is Richard hill the only person good enough for us or not good enough should I say. There has got to be a decent fit out there if the club just does it's research
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Post by back4more on Nov 19, 2017 17:07:13 GMT
I see no resemblance whatsoever between West Ham and Eastleigh. How do you justify, in specific terms, each of your statements? I can see that Cleverley, who was disposed of as not good enough by Man U and Everton in succession and is now doing a job for Watford, is a good example of Costa's good management. Can you give specific examples though to support your Hammers/Spifires unlikely analogy?
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Post by slewmcg on Nov 19, 2017 17:16:41 GMT
Well basically what I'm saying is a good set up backstage and underachieving set of players should make a job prospect attractive for other managers. As some people on here are saying hill is still the best person for the job and no one else would want it. In comparative terms I'm saying there must be some good managers at Eastleighs level that can turn things around, why is hill still the best person for the job? Wasn't really comparing the two clubs together just using an example of wht makes a managerial post attractive/unattractive
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Post by christopher on Nov 19, 2017 17:27:24 GMT
Okay who is his replacement going to be, and how many games should he have to turn things around, before he too is dismissed? Maybe Mr Donald is having serious concerns about his investment in the club; when he is met with all this criticism, and this constant clamour for a manager's head after a few defeats. I too Wiilk will say what I like even though it may go against the concensus of opinion on here.
So let's have a constructive discussion on the way forward for the club. As things stand the pressure is on Mr Donald to sack the manager. have we not been down this route before!
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Post by slewmcg on Nov 19, 2017 17:45:18 GMT
I was sitting on the fence a little bit I thought maybe let's see what happens for this season but in my opinion I think he's made his position untenable by that comment about the fans. Attendances are waning and it's just going from bad to worse. I've been a fan for 2-3 years and I've never called for a managers head before but I just don't think there's one redeeming feature about hills return.
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Post by westendspitfire on Nov 19, 2017 18:04:13 GMT
Think the difference is that if we sack RH the new Manager will be the 5th in 15 months. Thats not an attractive proposition to get people applying!
Also we are not spending money, because we spent so much last year, I don't think that is just down to RH being pig headed and not paying players what they are asking for, its because we have to make up for the monies wasted last year. Why dodnthey keep Ross Stearn around until last week when he clearly wasn't in the managers plans, budget maybe!
So no budget and a new manager every 3 months on average, doesn't sound like the West Ham job to me, sounds like a poison chalice.
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Post by Bruce Forbes on Nov 19, 2017 18:06:19 GMT
On another thread, (which is where I should probably comment on it but want to watch some footy on Sky so can't be hopping around), someone has made a point about whether there is an opportunity to cancel Reda Johnson's contract. From a technical legal standpoint there might be but I don't think our owner is into exploiting legal loopholes when it comes to anyone who is working for him. What I also wonder is whether that kind of scenario might have some advantage for the player if he was looking to want to move himself. With his Eastleigh registration cancelled he could be signed up quite easily elsewhere as a free agent and even able to nego his own sign on fee. Very handy if he then miraculously recovered from his injuries and became 100% fit again. I said that if it was true, that he was refusing to play, he should be sacked and sued for the balance of of his contract. There is no way that I would suggest that Stewart should renege on any player's contract, but if there is any "player power" beginning to emerge (unbelievable at Non League level), then it should be stamped on immediately. Personally, I would be surprised if Reda Johnson was anything but a model professional, and with his previous medical history, the Club must have known what they were getting into when they offered him his contract. I think the time has come to try to put the miserable first part of the season behind us, and try to be positive for the rest of the season. I shall be there on Tuesday, hoping for the miracle to start, and be at every other home game (medical appointments permitting.)
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