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Post by tenacres on Oct 3, 2017 21:50:17 GMT
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Post by bigwing on Oct 4, 2017 10:12:32 GMT
He looks a beaten and unhappy man in that clip.
Not like our Richard at all.
I'm sure Richard has the full support of the dressing room and senior players and has galvanised an excellent, collective team spirit.
I'm certain once he gets them back into training, he'll get them motivated again and will be working hard on set pieces in particular to create chances.
What is a little worrying is that for all the 'problems' we had last season, our league position and goals scored suggests that our problems are worse now than at any point last season.
Anyway, have faith, I'm sure it will all come good in the end under Richard.
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Post by willk on Oct 4, 2017 11:30:40 GMT
I think the above post is somebody who either lives in a fantasy world or is just too nice. I think Hill will be gone by Christmas if results don't improve after October half term. I cant believe this is the man who can turn this consistent dirge around.
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Post by steve on Oct 4, 2017 11:42:26 GMT
Do I think Richard Hill should step down/be sacked now? No, Do I think Richard Hill is the right man to take us forward? No. I will be honest I am not a Richard Hill fan, I never have been and he knows that. What he did to win the Conference South was incredible and there is no disputing his record in his first stint was impressive. He left the club with the quote ‘I’ve taken this club as far as I can’.
Was Richard Hill the right man to bring in midway after last year’s shambles? Yes. Stewart made a mistake in allowing Chris Todd a full summer of recruitment with a decent budget only to sack him 4 games into the season. Ronnie Moore was an interesting one, his character and experience seemed to fit the club. The best Eastleigh performance I have ever seen (since 2001) was Swindon away last season, for whatever reason if it was the commute, the changing room, something wasn’t right and he ‘left’. Martin Allen let Stewart, the club and fans down – he was the man who could take us forward, if there are two managers you’d want to get you out the league its Allen or John Still but let’s face it, it was a disaster... So Hill was the right man to come in and steady the ship, he knows the club and Stewart trusts him – that’s ultimately why he came back.
Is he the right man to take us forward? No. In his own words he’s taken the club as far as he can... so why allow him a decent budget and chance to take the club forward? We have been incredibly unlucky with injuries so far this season and because he’s had a full summer of recruitment I think he should and positive he will get the season to keep the stability (unless we are in a relegation battle – which at the moment is possible). We are over ¼ of the way into the season and already 10pts off top & 6pts off the play offs, not out of reach but that’s simply not good enough is it?
As pointed out going forwards we haven’t got much attacking threat, we are a typical Richard Hill team... Big, Organised & Physical... we have a squad full of ‘hard workers’ with not much flair or talent – our most talented player is Sam Matthews IMO and he’s been thrown out on the wing. Our top goalscorers since being in the conference is 10 (Mandron), 15 (Constable), 18 (Constable). So we haven’t had a player score 20+ since being in the league. We have been unable to replace Andy Drury, possibly the reason why we seem to bypass our midfield...
Going forward, I think Richard Hill should stay in charge but should walk towards the end of the season if we are out of contention to allow the club to move forward... Allow a new manager, the right character the back end of the season and a full summer to give us the best chance of competing at the top which ultimately is where the owner and club wants to be.
But I didn’t apply for the manager’s job when it was available, so my opinion is that of a supporter...
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Post by bigwing on Oct 4, 2017 11:45:59 GMT
I think the above post is somebody who either lives in a fantasy world or is just too nice. I think Hill will be gone by Christmas if results don't improve after October half term. I cant believe this is the man who can turn this consistent dirge around. Willk - just wearing my positive hat this morning, not the hat of doom and gloom !
Of course Richard is the man to lead us into the brightness of the Football League.
I'm certain that SD wouldn't appoint somebody as our manager without truly understanding his qualities, and the way he works, in great depth.
I'm confident of a play-off place come May 2018, under Richard's leadership.
Put that happy hat on.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 4, 2017 12:20:24 GMT
RH absolutely loves this club 100% of that there is no doubt....but I wanted him to go upstairs as DoF and put our club back on a good footing for the future. The team is too old in many areas, mainly up front obviously and our slide towards the relegation zone shows that clearly. It's true he quit previously with the infamous comment "I've taken them as far as I can" so what changed? If we are honest,nothing has on the pitch....is that his fault? Well yes it is, he decided who would stay last summer, who would go, who he would like to sign. RH clearly believes in experienced players aged 29+ but that is only a short term answer if the team puts results together, which they aren't doing regularly. We keep going round and round in circles but I honestly believe RH would be a marvellous DoF....as I've said, he does care about this club. The problem is who would step into his Managers shoes if he did decide to trek upstairs.....AH is definitely not the answer for my money!!! I'd seriously look at Atkins but much would depend on the budget he would get...he knows how to get promotion if backed.
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Post by badger on Oct 4, 2017 12:31:56 GMT
13 games this season, 3 wins, simply not good enough. Ronnie Moore got fired with a far better record than this (played 22 won 11, drew 7 i think although I believe that includes the cup games).
As stated above when he left last time he said he has taken it as far as he could....what has he done since his return to suggest that he was wrong when he said this? At the moment I feel we are going nowehere under his leadership.
Unlike Steve above I believe he should go sooner, in order to give us a chance of salvaging something positive from the season.
Not only are we not getting good results, we are playing a dour brand of football. Last night I dont particuarly remember any real clear-cut chances, and no real proper shots on target. Again....that is not the first time we haven't made the goalkeeper make a proper save. Our only hope of scoring appears to be set pieces when we can chuck the big men forward.
It isn't sucessful and it isn't entertaining. We look no more improved now and the first few games of the season when we also seemed to lack creative ideas.
Hill has many excuses, and injuries are one, but maybe the age of the squad has something to do with the number of injuries?
I also didn't apply for the managers job, so maybe my opinion isn't relevant, but its based on watching many of this season's games both home and away. At the moment I am not getting much enjoyment from watching.
Time for a change at the top, before the season is wasted.
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Post by nedzelic on Oct 4, 2017 13:25:16 GMT
Pretty sure RM was not fired, he just left for whatever reason.
Agree with what Steve has said. Yes he gives everything and is a fan of the club but he his managerial philosophy is limited, he does not seem to adapt when situations must. It is the style of football as well that concerns me, that has not changed even when we have an injury free team. I suspect many supporters turn up at Eastleigh because they are fans of football not Eastleigh in particular. If we are playing unattractive football then they are going to go somewhere else, regardless to some extent of success.
What we need this season is stability, unfortunately we have again invested in players nearing the end of their career which will mean yet another rebuild at the end of the season whomever is in charge. Worryingly, arguably our best 2 players in Matthews and Howe are both loanees. I hope we give him a bit longer to enable Williamson and McCallum to get fit, without them the alternatives upfront are simply not good enough.
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Post by bigwing on Oct 4, 2017 14:48:38 GMT
Another worry is the number of injuries we're having is not all down to chance - some of that has to be down to training methods and fitness and from the matches I've been to this season (not all I admit), we seem to tire in the last 20 minutes.
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Post by ballboy on Oct 4, 2017 15:07:19 GMT
Isn't is strange that the euphoria of the away win at Hartlepool has changed into the despair of Boreham Wood. What fickle fans we are !!. With an away win at Wrexham and a win in our game in hand means we could be only 4 points of top spot and inconsistent results of all teams mean that no team is surging ahead. It is still too early to talk about a change of Manager so let's see where we are at Christmas and if we are in the bottom half i agree that things may need to change.
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Post by stew5018 on Oct 4, 2017 15:50:37 GMT
It wasnt euphoria it was relief!!!! Nobody thought that as a result of that win that everything this season had changed as it certainly wasnt a convincing performance
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Post by michaelefc on Oct 4, 2017 20:50:07 GMT
There is no way Richard hill should be leaving the managers job, unless we are involved in a serious relegation battle. We are not and I don't believe we will be. We have had far too much chaos in this club in recent times, the last thing we need is yet another change, with all the coaches, support staff, players being slung out /brought in. All that will do is cost a great deal of money, with absolutely no guarantee things will improve. So RH has to stay in charge.
What we currently are is an average National league side. I am confident we will finish in the middle third of the table. I am also confident that whether RH leads us into next season or not, we can improve on mid table. I realise I am in a small minority, but I am happy for stability this season, and I would like to see us really focus on the FA Cup and Trophy. If we can continue to build the ground and infrastructure, grow our support base and finish mid table, that for me is an okay season.
Last year was a complete fiasco, we will improve on last season; support the club and leave RH alone to get on with the job. Okay he doesn't know all the answers, but he knows a lot more than most of us do, which is why he is a professional in football and we are not.
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Post by steve on Oct 5, 2017 8:39:37 GMT
Last year was a complete fiasco, we will improve on last season; support the club and leave RH alone to get on with the job. Okay he doesn't know all the answers, but he knows a lot more than most of us do, which is why he is a professional in football and we are not. Do you believe Richard Hill is the right man to take us forward in the long run then?
As I said, right decision to bring him in last season to steady the ship but don't feel we can progress under him.
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Post by stadium on Oct 5, 2017 8:50:24 GMT
People keep saying about the "very old" squad... When fit, our (presumably) first choice strikers are 24 and 28, and our "best" line of defence is all mid to late 20s. It's only because of the unfortunate injury list that the older players are starting. The squad is already massive and bigger than it needs to if these younger players werent injured. If we sign many more we will just have a mass exodus when they all become fit again, and did the mass exodus work last season?
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Post by back4more on Oct 5, 2017 11:20:53 GMT
I can recall that during Richard Hill's first season at Eastleigh we won only one away game between the start of the season and mid February. Yes, that's right. One away win in almost 6 months. I remember it well because I turned up for almost all of the many defeats over that half year period. Needless to say, the calls on this forum for the new manager's head were many and loud. Somehow, however, we ended up in the play offs at the end of that season and the next season we won the league.
There are some comparisons which can be drawn with those dark days and nights of the 2012/13 season spent traipsing around the Conference South, often then in a beat up mini bus. We had a patchwork quilt of a team including players left over from the Ian Baird era plus those players RH had been able to sign during his early days. In the earliest days I suspect it was a question of just signing the best players who were available to sign on a sensibly priced short term contract or loan deal and getting the best out of what we had through the part time training regime that was in place. You can't build a title winning team in a few months. It took time to find and recruit the quality players who were going to turn the club's fortunes around. It took time but,eventually, as we managed to recruit players like Todd and Beckwith, the team began to have a solid core.
Where would we be if the club had heeded the calls for RH to go during his first season? In my opinion Stewart would have gone too and we would be lucky to still be a National League South team - more likely Southern League, still with one stand and not even any terracing.
The situation we have now, in some respects, is not unlike that season of 5 years ago. It will take time to build that new Eastleigh team with a league wining ethos. In the meantime we aren't helped by the unacceptably large injury list. it's only the start of October and yet we finished the game on Tuesday night with our whole coaching staff on the pitch. I'm guessing that sorting out that injury list might be a high priority.
As for the actual game on Tuesday we should be much more positive throughout the 90 minutes. I thought we started well, forcing errors from Boreham Wood and creating opportunities. The Boreham Wood youth team squad sitting next to me were convinced it was only a matter of time before Eastleigh scored. I'm not sure why Constable and Zebroski were switched after 15 or so minutes. Beano had done some good stuff down the right and Zebs was working hard from the start to give their defence an uncomfortable time. Once they switched roles and Beano went up front, Boreham Wood seemed to settle down and find more time to build from the back. There were some good individual performances and we showed at times that we can move the ball around quickly to create chances but as the second half wore on it would have been good to see every player moving and showing for the ball. BW were the sharper side as play went on and they got their reward.
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