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rich hill
Sept 23, 2017 12:46:47 GMT
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Post by martfergie on Sept 23, 2017 12:46:47 GMT
The team is in a mess and we now have a very average manager in charge of a very average team. The expectation and excitement of 2/3 years ago has been replaced with the weekly gloom of watching a situation which isn't getting any better. Great to have s****y new bars, restaurants and new stands but in reality this club is completely stuck in that league and will be for many years to come. Unfortunately I agree completely. Football is a funny business and we could yet go on a 5 game win streak, go knows. However, I'm losing patience with hill although i thnk he needs to be here until end of the season for stability.
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rich hill
Sept 23, 2017 14:45:51 GMT
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Post by willk on Sept 23, 2017 14:45:51 GMT
Absolutely needs to be here to get stability behind the scenes but even the most die hard Eastleigh optimist now needs to realise the mediocre trap we're in. The style of play is very dull and limited and it's not enjoyable to watch at all.
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Post by stadium on Sept 23, 2017 15:21:38 GMT
2-0 lead against one of the league's "strongest" teams is a positive at the moment
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Post by westendspitfire on Sept 24, 2017 6:49:11 GMT
Give the man a lifetime contract the stats don't lie:-
Only lost 2 from 12
Beat Tranmere, Hartlepool and the league leaders robbed at LO
Most injuried team in the NL yet just 6 points off top
Football genius
Huge crowds
Most sunshine at home matches incl hottest day vs Aldershot
Lovely pitch
Big new stand
Love being an Eastleigh fan
This is why we follow.....
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Post by bomber on Sept 24, 2017 8:03:39 GMT
The team isn't in a mess at all, in fact i'd say it's very stable and it's early days yet, but unfortunately stability isn't exciting. Hill needs at least two seasons minimum to sort any plan he might have. Agree about the new bar and restaurants, and the fact that the roof on the shed is now completely useless just so a few jewellery rattlers can see the goal line at the expense of 100 odd poorer people who would really like to stay dry.
Me personally i'd sooner spend the money on getting a car running right rather than tart up the bodywork, if you get my drift.
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Post by hantslondoner on Sept 24, 2017 9:59:31 GMT
Some very strong words about the new bar, restaurant, etc.
Personally it's not for me either, but surely it's going to bring in more money for the club, and ultimately enable us to strengthen the team? And, as has been stated many times before, run more as a self-sufficient entity, for the time when SD is not there to put in money?
Bur I'm another one who hopes that the regular fans will not be neglected for the new 'corporate set'.
If the roof's not fit for purpose, hopefully someone will raise this with the club/chairman and it can be improved. Or stick the away fans at that end? As I've always said, the accoustics in the Mackoy are really good anyway, and the away support get a lot of the benefit of that.
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Post by cure4type1 on Sept 24, 2017 10:24:34 GMT
Some very strong words about the new bar, restaurant, etc. Personally it's not for me either, but surely it's going to bring in more money for the club, and ultimately enable us to strengthen the team? I'm another one who hopes that the regular fans will not be neglected for the new 'corporate set'. If the roof's not fit for purpose hopefully someone will raise this with the club/chairman and it can be improved. Or stick the away fans at that end? As I've always said, the accoustics in the Mackoy are really good anyway, and the away support get a lot of the benefit of that. I am one of those who use the facilities in the top lounge before and after matches although I would not consider myself a jewellery rattler. I am inclined to agree that raising the roof of the shed end to allow for a view of the nearside goal is one of Stewart's biggest mistakes in stadium planning. There is no doubt that it takes away from the acoustics of the shed and the view is not really utilised much by those in the top lounge as during pre-match build up everyone is so busy eating, drinking and chatting that the view is not much more than of passing interest. Added to this, the roof is virtually useless as protection against rain if the wind is blowing in the wrong direction. Kinda defeats the purpose me thinks. Before the start of the match, the curtains are closed for at least ten minutes whilst all the booze is cleared away and the curtains are only opened once every last glass has been collected. By that time the mass exodus has taken place and the only guests that remain behind are mainly the older ladies and those not really interested in the football anyway. My thoughts are that if they are happy to miss the start of the match, the game is not that important to them and therefore missing the final 5th of the pitch is something they should have to put up with. Hopefully this is something that can be addressed in the not too distant future, after all the main purpose of EFC should remain the football.
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Post by hantslondoner on Sept 24, 2017 10:50:09 GMT
Yes, In the main stand we get a constant stream of satisfied-looking people arriving late for the start/start of the second half after having sampled the hospitality, and seem to spend most their time chatting rather than watching the football. But hey, that's what happens nowadays at most clubs of a certain size, or with certain facilities, who want to be ambitious. They need this kind of 'client'. And as I say, it's more money for the club, and as long as it doesn't affect the football side of things, or the fans' matchday experience... having said that, hopefully the roof will be sorted out.
Personally I don't see that the money put into those new facilities has detracted from the money put into the squad this season - as I said, it's a season of consolidation and RH is doing a decent job on that, and he's had decent funding to achieve that position too.
I will be interested, however, in what SD now sees as the next step on the football side, given that he tried some things last season which didn't succeed.
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Post by blueandwhite on Sept 24, 2017 18:30:32 GMT
Give the man a lifetime contract the stats don't lie:- Only lost 2 from 12 Beat Tranmere, Hartlepool and the league leaders robbed at LO Most injuried team in the NL yet just 6 points off top Football genius Huge crowds Most sunshine at home matches incl hottest day vs Aldershot Lovely pitch Big new stand Love being an Eastleigh fan This is why we follow..... not sure what the last half of that list have to do with richard hill though?! to look at the stats another way hill has won just seven games as eastleigh boss, and he has been in the job over 6 months, that isn't great. not saying he should be replaced, just that we have a decent budget for this league and should be in the top few places. yes xyz has gone against him, but every manager can say that. when hill got the job, the garden wasn't rosy of course, but that is nearly always the way when a manager comes in isn't it?
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2017 6:44:08 GMT
The XYZ is obviously the injuries that the team has suffered, but the issue here is if you keep signing older players like we do, they are more prone to injuries and more to the point, take longer to come back because of the age factor. You reap what you sow when you plan this way and its something the club should have scrapped. A good example is that we lost Scott Wilson because he wanted to play, and he wasn't getting that chance with EFC so asked to leave, Macclesfield's gain is our loss. He was a Toddy signing, but unfortunately he was sacked 4 games into a season in which I am convinced Wilson would have got a good run of games, but in came RM, MA and RH all of whom knocked the confidence out of him when you kept playing the same players ahead of him. Virtually all the younger strikers we've let go have gone elsewhere and scored goals, yet we carry on with players aged 37,36, 32 ect ect....even one aged 40 last season!!!!! The thing that bugs me is that if we were in for a young striker, and does his homework on the club, he will know how young strikers are treated, he is unlikely to want to sign and who could blame him. Yes RH has brought the stability that was needed and laying the foundations for the next stage, a stage that has got to be for a youthful side that we keep together for a number of years to grow together, progress together and add to it when we become a bigger and better club than we are at the moment with further quality players for the next level which by then hopefully is aiming for League One status. It is not going to be done with players aged 30+.... the first sentence I wrote says it all about older players. The league table is a very strange one this season, its weird with every team having dropped at least 14 points already out of 36...from top to 20th you could argue every one of them are mid-table teams!!!!!! Its absolutely nuts to say we could win this league, but the facts don't lie, we could do it
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Post by michaelefc on Sept 25, 2017 7:25:40 GMT
Its absolutely nuts to say we could win this league
Yes it is.
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rich hill
Sept 25, 2017 11:30:30 GMT
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Post by westendspitfire on Sept 25, 2017 11:30:30 GMT
Talk of league one again 😠saw someone talking championship on facebook 😠absolute madness we are a non league club very new at this level. Build it slowly but have a look at the 6 teams promoted since we joined the NL, 5 are below the top 10 in league 2 with brizzle rovers being an exception because they were already a huge club compared to us. we need to reign in our sky inspired expectations and enjoy what we have
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Post by nobadspitfire on Sept 25, 2017 15:03:54 GMT
Talk of L1/Championship targets were started by & continued by one person, SD. It's his ambition for the club. So no reason why other supporters shouldn't echo those ambitions from time to time. Agreed, we don't look like a promotion candidate atm, but stranger things have happened. Generally speaking, I rule nothing in & nothing out. One reason I don't normally go in for predicting. Time will tell. One thing I would say is that Richard Hill is doing a great job in difficult circumstances & must continue.
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rich hill
Sept 25, 2017 16:02:50 GMT
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Post by westendspitfire on Sept 25, 2017 16:02:50 GMT
Thank goodness SD has quelled talk like that, raising expectations has led to fans wanting new managers every time we have a bad run and this season even when its not particularly bad.
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Post by back4more on Sept 25, 2017 18:30:39 GMT
If you can put a team of 60 year olds together and win the league that's fine by me. The preoccupation with the age of the players seems to be a bit weird. Also, I know this has been raised before but what exactly is the shed end? I don't recall there being a shed end until people started to use that terminology a couple of seasons ago. If you are a Chelsea supporter and want to pretend Eastleigh is Chelsea then fine but as an Eastleigh supporter it would be nice if Eastleigh could stick to having our own identity on the pitch and around all four sides. I seem to remember that Stewart was happy with "shed end" and if that's what he wants then who is to argue but I find it pretentious. I regret not being able to continue my tradition of getting to all the 'aways' and missing the visit to Hartlepool, so would just like belatedly to congratulate the boys in blue, the supporters who did get there and the management team on a brilliant result.
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