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Post by swb on Mar 13, 2016 10:46:30 GMT
Up until yesterday Coulson looked out of his depth in the team but, as has already been said, turned in an MoM performance against Chester.
Hopefully the same will be said soon about Matt Tubbs who, with the exception of his goal from 12 yards with just the keeper to beat, still does not look the part for me.
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Post by nobadspitfire on Mar 13, 2016 10:47:02 GMT
swb said:-Up until yesterday Coulson looked out of his depth in the team
Clearly you weren't at the Woking game on Tuesday. It's quite a step up from VNL South to our level, & with him coming into a team in less than great form, it is understandable that he should take a few matches to settle in.
Match stats from the BBC website, confirm how one sided the game was:- Possession E63% C37% Shots E16 C5 On Target E10 C2 Corners E7 C2 Fouls E7 C5
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 11:08:38 GMT
So is it TODD IN after a couple of wins? What concerns me more is how we came about these wins. For me, Jai being put central, and Tubbs and Yemi playing together were not from the managers choice, but from being forced and just happens to have improved us. If Reid didn't get sent off and Constable injured we would still be playing the same way. A fair few were moaning Jai unfit and should be dropped, yet it's clear what his best role was, and has been for years. (RH didn't see it either). We all said change to drop Constable, but wasn't done through any reason other than injury. What happens Tuesday when Constable fit and when Strevens or Drury back ? Jai pushed left again, Constable back up top? You have to give credit for the victories , but I'm still unsure on the shape and decision making in our starting line ups. I'll be pissed off if Constable is put straight back in Tuesday. It's not all about winning when it comes to confidence in a manager. Also, Todd's transfers have been poor so far, and must be considered. A manager will be judged by the owners based on results, but fans can see through them more and like more to be entertained, or should I say, less frustrated. That's me personally. Got bored watching RH football even when winning.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 11:33:44 GMT
I havent been to the last few games, but the above post from SS is pretty much bang on the money.
A forced change often shows you the way, but the question remains, does the manager see that Beano & Tubbs isn't ever going to work, and will he back what has contributed to the turn around in form, or does he go back to what he believes in when all are fit and available. I dont see Yemi & Tubbs as being a great partnership, but pace and guile is better than a distant partnership that we have seen with Beano & Tubbs. Yemi doesnt get many goals, but every time he plays down the middle, he forces defenders onto the back foot, he turns them around and gets them retreating back to their own penalty area, and that creates space for Jai to play in behind our front 2 whilst the defenders back off giving him time on the ball to pick a pass. TBF, every game Yemi plays, you will always read the opposition manager and/or fans say that Yemi gave them problems. I never read that about Beano. He works his socks off & can never be faulted for his efforts, but its not enough at this level if you want to be a top 5 club. For me, we are still crying out for a good target man, but we can go with what we have for now and leave the recruitment for next season, where a Sold CH and a target man should be the 2 priorities. Get the right men in and we will be hard to stop next year. The problem is, we said that last year too, yet we stuck with the same defence, which needed strengthening, as they were our weakness last season too. We concede to many goals compared to the other top 5 clubs & until that is addressed it probably doesn't matter who we play upfront..
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 12:14:40 GMT
The first half performance was the probably the best Ive seen Eastleigh play this season and thats with Constable, Drury and Reid all missing from the team.
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Post by nobadspitfire on Mar 13, 2016 13:13:59 GMT
Plus, happyrichard, don't forget another automatic starter, Ben Strevens. It looked like we might struggle in midfield without AD & BS, but as we have seen, a shuffle round has done the trick. We're now seeing the midfield link up with the forwards much more than games prior to Woking. Totally agree that Jai is a far better player in the centre. CT & BS will have difficult decisions to make once players are back from injuries & suspensions.
Sunnysaturdays......you state that so far CT's transfers have been poor so far. Fanimo and Mohamed may not have worked out but Coulson & Tubbs? Don't think so. Give the guy a break and more time, please. .
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 13:32:02 GMT
Do you really think that Coulsen & Tubbs were Todds signings?
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Post by westendspitfire on Mar 13, 2016 13:55:01 GMT
Very harsh on CT his overall record as a Manager in his first job has been good we are still in the play off race with 10 games to go despite all the nay sayers writing us off less than two weeks ago. Think we need to manage our expectations better, obviously our target is the play offs but that is the target of a large number of clubs with lots more experience than us at this level, we're having another good season and I'm enjoying the ride. Also think Beano would have scored a hatful yesterday fingers crossed he gets the chance to prove it Tuesday.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 14:08:47 GMT
The point being made about Beano is, that if he was in the side yesterday, we would not have created those chances, we are too rigid when we are set up with him up front.
I'm not being hard on Todd, i like him as a person & a manager, but his signings and the fact that some are not his signings, shows a weakness of his, that he needs to improve upon. The appointment of Shaun North was his choice, and it now sounds like that mistake has also now been rectified with North leaving the club (although that appears to be unconfirmed). You cant keep going on signing players & coaches and then discarding them within weeks. Coulson appears to be the only one that has worked out well, all the others have already left or are bench players. There is so much more to football management that picking a side and getting your team to play a certain shape. This is where Todd needs to learn and improve, so that he is really able to bring the right players in and not just guess at players, then kick them out when it doesn't work out. Not many of the players we have brought in under his reign have actually started games, so straight away they were not seen as better than we had? As i have said before, if we had done our scouting homework correctly, we would already have known that they were not right for us...
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Post by westendspitfire on Mar 13, 2016 14:21:42 GMT
Appreciate the point about Beano but don't agree that chances wouldn't have been created yesterday Chester were poor and our finishing was equally bad, think Beano would have had chances and buried more than one of them. As far as CT goes we all know he is a novice and at his age that was surely never in question, does anyone really expect him to know it all now? We have to give him time to learn and I've seen enough to think he is doing so. I doubt there is a manager out there who is more than 30% successful with their signings let alone in the first 6 months in the job.
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Post by nobadspitfire on Mar 13, 2016 14:38:18 GMT
Do you really think that Coulsen & Tubbs were Todds signings? I was merely responding to Sunnysaturdays' comment which in my view was unfair to CT. We know that SD & others are involved in signing players, so why have a dig at Chris like that? The bottom line is that Chris is learning and has a lot more to learn about management and is probably very open to assistance from others. He has made mistakes and will make many more, like all of us. I'll throw a controversial subject into the ring here for debate. A Director of Football. No, not Dave Malone, but someone like John Gregory working on a part time basis. Any thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 13, 2016 15:17:56 GMT
Do you really think that Coulsen & Tubbs were Todds signings? I was merely responding to Sunnysaturdays' comment which in my view was unfair to CT. We know that SD & others are involved in signing players, so why have a dig at Chris like that? The bottom line is that Chris is learning and has a lot more to learn about management and is probably very open to assistance from others. He has made mistakes and will make many more, like all of us. I'll throw a controversial subject into the ring here for debate. A Director of Football. No, not Dave Malone, but someone like John Gregory working on a part time basis. Any thoughts? Which part was unfair ? Which signings have worked out so far ? From what has been said in the past it was not Todd who had eyes on Coulson, and we had an eye on for a while. No other signing has worked out yet, and that includes taking a player from a premiership development squad to give no game time so far. I was under the impression Todd selected Fanimo, Holland and Mohamed, not Stewart. Not sure who selected Poke, so will give benefit of the doubt on that one. So which of the 3 signings from Todd worked out ? Two left already and other not played a minute yet. I've been perfectly defensive of Todd in most, if not nearly all of my previous posts by the way and have said nothing other than facts so far in relation to non planned changes causing our upturn in form. That is my opinion, just as someone has said Chester were poor, far from it I thought, defending is part of being a good team. Just as someone thinks Beano would have got a hatfull, yet would had been marshalled by two very big centre backs and we would have reverted to balls into channels for him. Our midfield would have been nowhere near the front line if Beano was playing, for reason mentioned above. That and fact Yemi stretches teams down the middle and forces them to drop. Beano does not have that affect. Tubbs said himself yesterday that he had something like 4 shots in 5 games, yet more than that yesterday. Coincidence? I think not. Anyway, my original post was that a paying fan who comes to be entertained will judge a manager on more than just results. My post is perfectly fair and it's for Todd to change my opinion on something he has yet to prove. I like Todd by the way, carries himself exactly how the face of a club should do. I also said about a month ago that he should be looking at his number 2 pretty damn quick in all this bad form, so what took so long ? No time to be sentimental in a cut throat environment and I hope Todd has learnt that in the past month. His interview to Paul M certainly seemed to suggest he has learnt quickly in the past couple of weeks. Again, I don't think I've been unfair, but that's your view, so fair enough if you think that.
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Post by back4more on Mar 13, 2016 17:49:06 GMT
I think the situation, at the time of the season when CT took over, demanded that he had to do something to address what was then perceived as a thin and underperforming squad. He also needed to get some support for the workload he was faced with.
He probably didn't have time to build up a lot of intelligence about the players or personnel who might be available. He knew he needed to act quickly and it's likely he would have therefore had to rely on recommendations and on his own knowledge of some individuals. Shawn North and Kaid Mohamed were both examples of people he had played with or under previously.
I wonder in those circumstances whether it is realistic to have the same expectations from his recruitment activities as you would from an established manager who has had time to start building his own team and to develop his own recruitment strategy and contacts. I personally think it is not realistic, and some of the negative conclusions being drawn on this thread don't seem to me to be very well thought out. I see it actually as a big positive that CT has been prepared to take a chance where he's felt it necessary rather than dithering or prevaricating.
I'm also not sure why Matt Tubbs and Luke Coulson should be considered not to be Todd signings as some are suggesting on this forum. I don't think there is any way the club would bring those players in if he didn't want them. He will be made aware of players through all sorts of channels and if in some cases that might happen to be through contacts the owner has, which I suspect is what is being implied, I don't see what difference that makes. If Stewart identifies possible new additions, I honestly expect that it will be Chris Todd who will make the call as to whether they do come in or not.
It's certainly true that there is a need for some strengthening still as you would expect, and from the comments CT has made in various interviews in the press it's clear he is trying to address this. He has made it known in those interviews though that it's not that easy to get the players you want particularly during the January transfer market and the current loan window. As he has said, clubs are not in a hurry to let their better players go elsewhere. There can be other complications as well of course in trying to set up a player move.
I think overall we've been very lucky with what CT has done for the team with an incredible winning run at the start and the best FA Cup progress and experience in the club's history going way beyond the rest of the non league clubs and almost knocking Bolton out. We've had the anti climactic dip in form which occupied several weeks after our cup exit but the fatigue and reduced morale which pervaded then have been overcome with improving performances from Forest Green onwards. I know we lost that game but it was our first step up to a better performance for a while and we have maintained that upward trend. We even beat 86 point Cheltenham Town for goodness sake and unless my eyes were deceiving me that was with James Constable in the side - please note, those who now seem, from their comments on this thread, to want to write him off.
I did think that yesterday's performance was excellent with some very effective changes. It's true that you can only pick from the players you have available, but you still need to make the decisions and decide the set up. That looked like the right ones to me with many outstanding individual performances.
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Post by tony on Mar 13, 2016 19:14:28 GMT
Another well ground out three points.
But, can we please please PLEASE, for the love of God, not play that Piranhas song when we score? Anything but that. Anything. Even f***ing Adele. ANYTHING.
It's been done. Everywhere else. It's naff. It's embarrassing.
Please. We're better than that.
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Post by topmiler on Mar 13, 2016 19:52:44 GMT
I agree, it's very tacky and annoying.
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