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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 13:01:23 GMT
Was Greener going to play as the holding midfielder before Hardings injury? Yemi and Tubbs could be dynamite as a pair when both are match fit.....ah dreams eh!!!!
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Post by tottonspitfire on Feb 10, 2016 13:06:00 GMT
Come on, the manager & the lads had another 92 mins to correct their shape & game plan. The Harding injury after 2 mins whilst unfortunate, cannot be used as an excuse for that inept performance. You can only correct the shape and game plan if you have the players available to do it .
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Post by efcspitfire on Feb 10, 2016 13:21:08 GMT
Yemi and Tubbs could be dynamite as a pair when both are match fit.....ah dreams eh!!!!
I don't think that would work at all,especially against some big centre halves,pointless exercise. Give Beano and Tubbs a few more games I reckon,they should be two of the best strikers in this league on their day.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 13:58:31 GMT
We had a target man and we let him go. The irony of this recent form is we are now only averaging about 0.2 points per game more under Todd than what Hill did at the beginning of this season before he stepped down.
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Post by mkp on Feb 10, 2016 13:59:48 GMT
For the first 60 minutes we were poor. Don't think there keeper had made one save and don't think we had had a shot on target. They scored at the right times in each half and you thought we ain't going to respond. Then two quick fire goals from Beano (the sort of balls in the box he would like to receive every game) and I was thinking we are going to go on and win this - which on 59 minutes looked one of the most stupidest things to say/think! Then we let there guy run with the ball from the half way line and a couple of half hearted missed tackles then we are 3-2 down. After that, we had some chances but we weren't as up for it as they were and they ran out winners. Partington was my MOM but also thought Strevens and Constable had good games. Even thought Poke let in 3 again he didn't have bad game. Still think we need another loan signing(s) to boost the squad as at the moment things aren't clicking. Even though we haven't won in 10 (yes I no four of those were cup games) we are still in the play offs and apart from Braintree no one in the chasing pack of 7 teams have games in hand on us. We need to get a minimum of 4 points from the next two games before we play 2nd and 1st in the league.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 10, 2016 14:15:07 GMT
Come on, the manager & the lads had another 92 mins to correct their shape & game plan. The Harding injury after 2 mins whilst unfortunate, cannot be used as an excuse for that inept performance. You can only correct the shape and game plan if you have the players available to do it . With 4 outfield substitutes we should have had a Plan B & a Plan C. With another 92 mins to play, a team that was 4th in the league playing against a team that was bottom, has plenty of time to adjust and try different things, no matter what you have on the bench. We tried something different in second half, but we were 2-0 down by then. In truth, if the likes of Midson & Mo who started on the bench, are not deemed able to affect a game when you need to shuffle the pack when injuries strike, then what the hell are they doing at the club? I cannot see Yemi and Tubbs being an effective partnership, as neither are target men and neither hold the ball up well. Great if they are bursting through on goal together, but other than a long punt that avoids opposition defenders, i can't see us having much success with that pairing. The whole world and his wife know what Tubbs needs, and if we are paying him a large chunk, we simply have to give him the right partner. As of this minute, we do not have the right partner for him. So we either go get one urgently on loan, or we just pay his big wages for 3 months and get nothing out of him, which IMO would be negligent. Talking of loans, i think i'm right in saying that you can only have 3 loan players on the books at any one time. So Tubbs is one, was Mo here on loan? We defo need at least 2 in, so unless we can pick up players who are currently out of contract and not playing anywhere, we have to look at the loan market to get 2 in, which might mean ditching Mo (if he is on loan).
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Post by tyreman on Feb 10, 2016 14:28:05 GMT
We must play better and when you look at the table Braintree are not far away from us with 1 point behind and 2 games in hand, a little concerning I would say.
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Post by taylov on Feb 10, 2016 16:46:20 GMT
Come on, the manager & the lads had another 92 mins to correct their shape & game plan. The Harding injury after 2 mins whilst unfortunate, cannot be used as an excuse for that inept performance. You can only correct the shape and game plan if you have the players available to do it . The fall from grace has been a sudden one suggesting a relatively simple cause or causes - First we have a small squad of experienced players compared to some of our rivals for the play-offs, then we have a number of injuries to key players, and we have had a couple of players suspended. None of those, by themselves, explains the dip in form - but together.......well, its a toxic mix. I am convinced that we need a couple more players with League experience adding to, rather than replacing existing squad members - No criticism of SD intended here - I recognise how much work he and Chris have done in recent weeks.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 11, 2016 7:30:24 GMT
Its always nice to debate and this thread on our formations is interesting. I'm a football purist which is why I had the thoughts of Yemi and Tubbs working as a pair up front. The target man is pass its sell by date in modern football, and it requires long balls to find the him, which most of us moan about at EFC. Whats wrong with having those two up front with Greener down the left wing, and Coulson down the right, getting balls across, with the midfielders bringing the ball through the middle? I'm not suggesting punts to let them run onto, let's play from the back, through midfield and let them find targets ahead of them, or if Yemi and Tubbs stretched them wide with their runs, players like Drury, Reason, can shoot from twenty odd yards. A target man won't win many balls with a centre half on his back, and on the occasions he does win it, the first touch is vital, it has to be top notch to lay it off properly otherwise the attack breaks down. Its risky, whereas bringing it through midfield we are more likely to keep the ball and create openings to attack. I think teams enjoy defending against target men, it makes their job easier, but if they see on the team sheet, Yemi and Tubbs they know they've got a tough job ahead of them. Yemi may be small but he was making mincemeat of the Bolton defence before his injury, I don't think big centre halfs like little quick players snapping at their heels!! Beano will obviously keep his place for the time being, I'm not knocking him in any way, just thinking if it is worth looking at on the training ground, or maybe something we can perhaps see in the last twenty of a game. Trouble is only 11 can play at once, so Beano, Yemi and Tubbs together is extremely unlikely one feels. My answer is something I've long argued about, play 12 a side and scrap the offside rule completely. When it was originally thought about it seemed a good idea, but teams play in a line so the rule is almost like have an invisible player helping you defend your goal, your not actually defending against the ball are you. No offside and an extra player, possibly standing on the penalty spot waiting with a defender alongside him would open up the pitch completely, then defenders really would have to do their job, the offside rule stops strikers doing theirs most of the time. Is that unfair? A rule which makes it easy for defenders and very difficult for strikers? Change the season to Feb-Nov for summer football and it'd be perfick as Mr Larkin would say!!!!! Looking at the bigger picture we've been found out recently with having a small squad when injuries/suspensions hit and tired players, hopefully this summer we'll create a 22 man squad from the off.
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Post by dave on Feb 11, 2016 16:10:11 GMT
The 22 man squad is fine when someone else is paying, it was stated when we went up that the squad would be kept small to increase the quality, so are you advocating we reduce the quality to increase numbers to stay within the finite budget?
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Post by taylov on Feb 11, 2016 16:18:12 GMT
I imagine that SD and Chris have done their sums and won't want to lose out on a potential play-off place - after all the play-off is essentially a lottery where the best team rarely wins - it would be shame not to have a ticket.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 7:45:55 GMT
Dave Said: The 22 man squad is fine when someone else is paying, it was stated when we went up that the squad would be kept small to increase the quality, so are you advocating we reduce the quality to increase numbers to stay within the finite budget?
I'm saying lets build a squad to get promotion. I see the logic of a smaller squad with quality but it doesn't work when injuries and suspensions come along. Sattsy is on about a big centre half and target man, I know the two I'd go for if we don't go up this year. However the best business this summer would be a new pitch and undersoil heating, I understand its being looked at financially so we wait to see what the outcome will be.
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Post by geezer on Feb 16, 2016 17:04:16 GMT
Don't get too down fella's. The side has not gone bad overnight look at the injury situation. Just before the Bolton away game we started to pick up some niggly injuries which got worse when we played at home against Wrexham on 30th due to a really cut up pitch. Two more players pulled up with muscle pulls, I remember Partington was one, cant remember the other. Add to that the fact that teams (Kidderminster)seem to think that short term fixes like getting youth players from premiership sides is the long term answer, "its not". They may win a few games but as soon as the players are recalled, they slide back down the league with a lot less cash in their bank balance. We just need to get over this little blip, the weather will get better soon the pitches will improve and you will see what we can do when we have a fit team playing in their right positions, and fighting for places. It is impossible for Chris to pick the same team two weeks on the trot at the moment, not because he is tinkering, but because he has no choice.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 16, 2016 17:14:46 GMT
Win less in 10 games is not a "little blip".... Can't blame injuries either. We have had no more than 3 players out injured at any one time, a 22 man squad could cope with that easily. A 16 man squad + youth players, cannot!....So we really cant say we want a small squad with an emphasis on quality and then moan that we have a few out injured effecting the team and balance of the sides we put out. That's why teams have larger squads. And lets be honest here, the 3 that we have had out injured are not even always considered starting 11 players anyway, so it really shouldn't be making that much of a difference. I'm sure we'll turn it around, but it will be too little too late, i'm afraid.
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Post by back4more on Feb 16, 2016 19:49:43 GMT
Paul, it won't surprise you to know that my views differ from those in your post in some respects.
What I can't help wondering though is how you square your ideas with your previous advocacy of giving young players the opportunity to play.
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