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Post by vikingmartin on Sept 9, 2023 22:15:04 GMT
As long as RH is at the club, I will need a lot of persuading to attend matches. In 15 years I have never been so certain that we were going to lose heavily than today, even before a ball was kicked. Very regrettably, my instincts were confirmed!
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Post by hantslondoner on Sept 10, 2023 11:55:42 GMT
The goals are on Gateshead Twitter (for some reason not able to post the link) if you want to relive the agony.
Just.So.Easy.
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Post by eastleighnumber9 on Sept 10, 2023 18:38:51 GMT
It’s the same impression I got that the players that got signed in the summer were down to RH, after all as director of football I would guess he has the final say.
He did a good job 10 years ago with decent budget to get us out of the national league south, hopefully a new manager will be appointed soon, but the manager will have to work under RH.
Did we ever lose by 6 when LB was in charge?
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Post by callumefc on Sept 10, 2023 19:19:51 GMT
RH still has more points than LB this season
This will be the 2nd manager these bunch of ***** will have seen off and its early September. Says more about them than any management team on the pitch or behind the scenes imo
Maguire last payday, Quigley same, McCallum never had any drive to go higher, Martin dropped out the league a year too early, Taylor won League 2 as captain last season, you could go on. I've gone from worrying to almost hoping the elder statesmen **** it off early doors for better things.
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Post by spitfire2007 on Sept 10, 2023 20:59:00 GMT
I agree that the attitude of some of the players can be called into question. Of more concern is how we’ve ended up recruiting so badly yet again and how reminiscent it is of summer 2017 when we again recruited too many senior players to no obvious plan. RH is the consistent here and I worry about his involvement and ability to adapt. As already pointed out, the game has moved on a lot since we were promoted. Better pitches and the influence of how football is now played at the highest levels have led to more mobile and technically superior teams that play through midfield at pace and have connectivity all across the pitch. I’ve seen no obvious pattern of play from us so far in this season and far too much reliance on direct football, playing for percentages. It looks like what it is: a group that have been thrown together, expecting instant results. Last year I felt we had a side that, with a few additions, could challenge this season. Looking at it now, are any of the players recruited an upgrade on the player they’ve replaced?
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Post by hantslondoner on Sept 11, 2023 9:03:04 GMT
I also don't see any leadership on the pitch - nobody seems to be implementing the managerial 'policy' on the pitch and nobody seems to be calling out the players for not doing their job.
Cav Miley could have done a job in this team as defensive midfielder. Just saying.
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Post by rokerite on Sept 11, 2023 10:34:25 GMT
As long as RH is at the club, I will need a lot of persuading to attend matches. In 15 years I have never been so certain that we were going to lose heavily than today, even before a ball was kicked. Very regrettably, my instincts were confirmed! At National League level a D.o.F. is an unnecessary role, particularly if you have a good management team. Actually he can have a detrimental effect. |
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Post by sattsy on Sept 11, 2023 14:04:56 GMT
My understanding on Hilly's role as DOF, is not that he has final say or any say really on player recruitment, but his role is to do all the contract negotiations with the player/agent, that either the manager or the owner have identified.
I don't believe he is choosing players, just ensuring that when contracts are signed, we don't get our pants pulled down financially, as has happened in the past.
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Post by usspitfire on Sept 11, 2023 14:46:27 GMT
My understanding on Hilly's role as DOF, is not that he has final say or any say really on player recruitment, but his role is to do all the contract negotiations with the player/agent, that either the manager or the owner have identified. I don't believe he is choosing players, just ensuring that when contracts are signed, we don't get our pants pulled down financially, as has happened in the past. That makes more sense than some of the utter nonsense I've read lately! |
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Post by blueandwhite on Sept 11, 2023 17:30:06 GMT
I can’t believe for a second that Richard hill wouldn’t be involved in choosing players for the squad. Obviously he has made mistakes, but haven’t we all. The key thing now is to get the right person in as manager. Hope we will by the end of next week
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Post by badger on Sept 11, 2023 20:15:48 GMT
My understanding on Hilly's role as DOF, is not that he has final say or any say really on player recruitment, but his role is to do all the contract negotiations with the player/agent, that either the manager or the owner have identified. I don't believe he is choosing players, just ensuring that when contracts are signed, we don't get our pants pulled down financially, as has happened in the past. The numerous tweets from Strevens and his family when he left suggested Hill had a role that made his life very difficult. Of course time has moved on and the role of Hill may have been different with Bradbury as compared to when Strevens was in charge but given recruitment appears to be consistent with what we have seen before under Hill I find it difficult to believe he does not have a big part to play. Given the result Saturday Hill should now be nowhere near in the reckoning for the job but yet I fear he is still in the mix. It seems a shambles that it has taken 2 plus weeks to get to here and no new manager, and a further few days to run on the process... Surely we know by now who the best candidates are?! Are we simply waiting for a good result to announce Hill of the back of? Are we struggling to find candidates who will be prepared to work with a DOF who may or may not impact recruitment and create an environment where the manager isnt really fully in charge? Are we being prudents with the budget and cannot afford/not prepared to pay some of the bigger names previously mentioned? A lot of questions, not many answers, but at the moment my fear is that we get same old under Hill for another year or two, and then he steps aside after mediocrity again to move upstairs to pick his own successor again and so the cycle continues.... Maybe its time for a completely fresh start.... |
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Post by usspitfire on Sept 12, 2023 5:32:09 GMT
My understanding on Hilly's role as DOF, is not that he has final say or any say really on player recruitment, but his role is to do all the contract negotiations with the player/agent, that either the manager or the owner have identified. I don't believe he is choosing players, just ensuring that when contracts are signed, we don't get our pants pulled down financially, as has happened in the past. .......A lot of questions, not many answers, but at the moment my fear is that we get same old under Hill for another year or two, and then he steps aside after mediocrity again to move upstairs to pick his own successor again and so the cycle continues.... Maybe its time for a completely fresh start.... Didn't we try that previously when Richard & SD left? I'm hoping we get someone permanent & suitable in place soon and we can start the rebuilding of the club. |
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Post by badger on Sept 12, 2023 6:46:20 GMT
.......A lot of questions, not many answers, but at the moment my fear is that we get same old under Hill for another year or two, and then he steps aside after mediocrity again to move upstairs to pick his own successor again and so the cycle continues.... Maybe its time for a completely fresh start.... Didn't we try that previously when Richard & SD left? I'm hoping we get someone permanent & suitable in place soon and we can start the rebuilding of the club. If you mean did we try a fresh start I think that would arguably have been the appointment of Strevens who took us to the playoffs. Hill then took up the DOF role again and it has been downhill since. Just seems to me that the new manager would be Hills puppet which narrows the available candidates as many would not take the job on those terms or at best has to do the job with one hand tied behind their back due to some level of intereference. Speculation of course but the tweets from Strevens suggest Hill made the job impossible for him. Applications close Friday, we then have a game Sat and another Tuesday. If we win either I bet we announce Hill the next day. It wont be a fresh start, but I really do think that is what we need. |
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Post by eastleighnumber9 on Sept 12, 2023 8:32:29 GMT
.......A lot of questions, not many answers, but at the moment my fear is that we get same old under Hill for another year or two, and then he steps aside after mediocrity again to move upstairs to pick his own successor again and so the cycle continues.... Maybe its time for a completely fresh start.... Didn't we try that previously when Richard & SD left? I'm hoping we get someone permanent & suitable in place soon and we can start the rebuilding of the club. SD I would have kept a close eye on everything. |
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Post by callumefc on Sept 12, 2023 9:03:52 GMT
Lots of moaning from what has become an ever entitled fan base 🙂
Let's have some names for the possible new job then......
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