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Post by tenacres on Jan 1, 2022 20:58:00 GMT
Chance to get a bit closer to the playoff picture tomorrow.
Weymouth have not played a league game for over 3 weeks.
Hopefully should be a decent gate, with Southampton match being off.
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Post by efc21 on Jan 2, 2022 17:27:12 GMT
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Post by bomber on Jan 2, 2022 17:30:09 GMT
A better team would've seen us off after that red card.
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Post by hantslondoner on Jan 2, 2022 18:42:08 GMT
Agree, Weymouth were not particularly good, but must have thought they had pinched a point until that dramatic finish from Danny Whitehall.
Strange match - thought we were poor in the first half but got the goal (nice finish), then came the bizarre red card. Hesketh said something to the ref - did he make contact with him, as a couple of people reckon he did? If so, did he mean to? I'm sure it will cone out in the wash but it seems a bit of a mystery at the moment.
After the break, we looked better (as we often do), a good second goal (another nice finish, aided by a clever dummy run by Smart to make the space), and we looked comfortable. We sat back, as we often do, but unusually conceded two poor goals. And then came that winner.... good to see us still going for the winner (even if Joe McD had been booked for timewasting just before it!), even with ten men.
A couple of good home results before the best part of a month on the road, some hard games coming up.
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Post by unknownquantity on Jan 2, 2022 19:37:16 GMT
I clearly saw Hesketh make contact with the referee and fairly soon afterwards the red card was shown. Whether the contact was minimal or accidental I am not sure of.
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Post by tenacres on Jan 2, 2022 21:18:36 GMT
possibly it was minimal and accidental?
I didn't see it but the general consensus seems to be it was a harsh red card.
"A better team would've seen us off after that red card."
Quite possibly, I suppose the other way of looking at this is if it had stayed 11 v 11 I think we would have won quite comfortably. We looked to be seeing the game out pretty well untill the last 20 minutes when we started to tire.
Really good to get 3 points like that in the face of adversity though.
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Post by nkc on Jan 2, 2022 21:44:02 GMT
I was sat as close to the incident as any paying spectator could have been. I did not see any contact. After the foul, which was a foul, the chap sat behind me said 'Hesketh will get himself booked here' as he was obviously disappointed with the decision. He moved towards the ref and soon after a red card was shown. We were convinced it must have been for foul and abusive language but Strevs interview is suggesting the referee has claimed his hand was slapped. Assume a player could have partially blocked my view of any contact, if there actually was any, but I certainly did not see any contact or any significant movement of either arm by Jake. That said I have an appointment at Specsavers next week.  |
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Post by rocky on Jan 3, 2022 0:07:51 GMT
I clearly saw Hesketh make contact with the referee and fairly soon afterwards the red card was shown. Whether the contact was minimal or accidental I am not sure of. You clearly saw contact but you are not sure if it was minimal? How does that work? What do you mean? Let’s just call it for what it was, a nonsense decision |
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Post by unknownquantity on Jan 3, 2022 12:42:17 GMT
As I understand it the laws of the game state
A yellow card for physical contact with any match official in a non-aggressive manner (e.g. an inquisitive approach to grab the official’s attention).
A red card for physical contact with match officials in an aggressive or confrontational manner.
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Post by callumefc on Jan 3, 2022 14:25:21 GMT
As I understand it the laws of the game state A yellow card for physical contact with any match official in a non-aggressive manner (e.g. an inquisitive approach to grab the official’s attention). A red card for physical contact with match officials in an aggressive or confrontational manner. Like you say, if these laws were carried out, most Premier League games would be abandoned after 30 mins through lack of players if all the touches on the ref were carded. It's the inconsistency that kills the game. |
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Post by back4more on Jan 3, 2022 14:28:39 GMT
Miley, Hollands and Whelan have all been key to some of our best results and with those three all missing we were playing with an improvised and unfamiliar centre midfield. Also missing was Harper, another very influential player for us. Given those absences we were doing very well against an admittedly weak but nevertheless committed Weymouth, until the red card, and all credit to every one of the players who did start the match.
My seat is in the blue stand above the centre line and I have 20/20 vision. I watched the red card episode unfold below me between Hesketh and the referee. Hesketh had been frustrated by his treatment from the officials and, as he ran past the ref, with both of them moving away with their backs to my side of the pitch, he did seem to get very close to the ref and say something to him while seeming from my angle to just gently pat the ref on the back just above his waist. When the ref slowly went to his pocket I expected him to show a yellow card as I thought any bookable offence could only have been dissent and there had been no overtly aggressive behaviour from Hesketh towards the ref. I was shocked to see the red card, especially as there had been no signs of extreme agitation from Hesketh. He had certainly been arguing but no more demonstratively than we normally see throughout any competitive match.
I believe that the club should appeal the red card. The appeal might not be successful because the referee's account will hold sway and the video evidence will be unclear, the video camera being on the opposite side of the pitch. The appeal should, however, serve to evidence the lack of tolerance which this referee showed in sending Hesketh off and hopefully be taken into account when the referee is assessed. His overall performance was OK to start with but became increasingly bizarre as the game progressed. His booking of our keeper for time wasting when we actually wanted to get the ball in play to get our 3rd goal was as odd a knee jerk and unprofessional piece of decision making as I have seen.
The 10 men have to be given full credit for holding shape and allowing the chance which was taken so well to take the 3 points in added time.
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Post by hantslondoner on Jan 3, 2022 18:28:59 GMT
If that's what Jake Hesketh did, John, then he was asking for trouble.
The ref had already shown a lack of tolerance (how many players did he book?) and common sense, so however harmless it all was, if he showed dissent and then touched the ref (however harmlessly), it woulsn't be a surprise for the ref to take it the wrong way and show red. As an ex-Premier League player, Jake should know better. Or maybe he doesn't know yet that a lot of National League referees are horribly unpredictable.
Not sure it's worth appealing based on what I've just said. Will the league protect their own, as seems to happen in higher levels of football?
Agree the booking of Joe McD for timewasting was utterly ridiculous, I picked that up in my match report too.
And, as you say, credit to us for coming back so well at the end. Three young players on the bench showed that personnel was stretched. Good to see them involved. And Sam Smart!
Going across to the other thread on Strevs' comments, when Danny Whitehall scored the winner I saw and heard a lot of passion from the fans!
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Post by unknownquantity on Jan 3, 2022 21:13:27 GMT
i think that Ryan Hill and Joe McDonnell were the only Eastleigh players booked and both of these happened in the second half. From what I saw if Jake Hesketh's contact with the referee I could see that if was accidental or minimal I could see how it could be interpreted otherwise.
On the two other occasions we have had this referee he sent off a Stockport player and awarded us a penalty last season, and on the other occasion he allowed our goal against Maidenhead despite some claims from the opposition that it was offside.
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Post by hantslondoner on Jan 4, 2022 11:06:12 GMT
So the club have appealed against the red card.....
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Post by bandit on Jan 5, 2022 21:03:26 GMT
Having watched the Hesketh sending off 7 times I can see that nothing has changed in the last 2 years , the REFEREES ! In this league are still absolutely awful and not good enough they still consistently favour some teams over others are NEVER reprimanded when clearly making errors . In essence they are EMBARRASSING, as are those chumps and clowns that teach and assess them .
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