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Post by swb on Jun 18, 2017 11:06:42 GMT
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Post by squadronleader on Jun 18, 2017 11:38:42 GMT
The ref will press the button on his watch to stop the time and press it again to start the time. Pretty straight forward really....
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Post by tenacres on Jun 18, 2017 19:25:10 GMT
Interesting idea. Presumably the ref would stop their watch absolutely every time the game is not in play. ie the moment the ref whistles for a free kick the clock would stop and then as the free kick is taken the clock would restart.
I think refs would need some practice in getting used to this. Specially those that have been timekeeping in the current way for a couple of decades.
Also question weather it would make much difference to players slowing the game down. Think that sort of gamesmanship would still take place even if it doesn't waste time.
Could end up with some halves being 35 minutes and some over an hour! So some games would probably finish before 4.30 or after 5.00.
Interesting idea but can't see it coming in.
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Post by nedzelic on Jun 18, 2017 20:30:13 GMT
Hate the idea it will end up just like American Football. Agree very difficult to implement at grass roots. It only takes one mistake where the ref forgets to start his watch after a throw in and you are screwed. Just clamp down on time wasting, more bookings and it will soon stop.
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Post by nobadspitfire on Jun 18, 2017 21:11:38 GMT
I'm all for football trying different things and this deserves to be trialled, however, you could arguethat it could encourage timewasting. I was a fan of Solent Stars back in the day, never prviously having watched or been interested in basketball, and 4 quarters of 10 mins, was it, certainly went quckly with all the breaks, timeouts etc. Never remember games dragging on or excessive time wasting. All controlled by a clock every one could see.
Anyone else like to reminisce about Solent Stars? I recall Jeff & Carla & MW as supporters. Anyone else?
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Post by michaelefc on Jun 19, 2017 6:44:39 GMT
Truly a daft idea. Bin it!!
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Post by Deleted on Jun 19, 2017 11:42:09 GMT
Not as daft as it seems to be honest...I hate time wasting and it starts in the first half if you notice carefully... corners, throw ins, goal kicks, and feigning injury by a team who happens to be winning at that point. Most games are played around the 60 minute mark when all activities are considered so how about taking something from cricket? The so called 'Power Play' zones?
How about the clock stops until the ball is actually in play during minutes 15 to 35 in the 1st half.....from minutes 50 to 65 second half, and finally from 82 minutes to final whistle?
Don't we all hate those final minutes when teams run it to the corner to waste time? Agree if 2 goals clear it does not matter, but 1 goal advantage or level could keep the game live and still very exciting to watch.
If that meant a game lasted 2 hours I'd think that is value for money rather than the current rip off we see nowadays for 60 minutes out of 90.
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Post by back4more on Jun 19, 2017 11:53:24 GMT
This wouldn't get rid of the tactic of keeping the ball in the corner because the ball is still in play and the clock is still ticking. It is worth considering though at professional level where there is the timing equipment to do it. 60 minutes isn't enough though. I would have thought the 80 minutes of actual play which you see in rugby would be nearer the mark but in fairness some analysis needs to be done to set and trial a realistic time. From my point of view i think taking the time keeping away from the ref at professional level is a good thing. Non league football below National League could continue to operate as it does now unless there is a practical way of using a clock. What do they do in amateur rugby Union games? Perhaps if they can play to a clock then any organised football can do the same? Room for debate on that I think.
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Post by swb on Jun 19, 2017 14:14:49 GMT
The ref will press the button on his watch to stop the time and press it again to start the time. Pretty straight forward really.... Sarcasm always misses the point. The professional game can have a dedicated time keeper acting on signals from the on pitch referee ( as in rugby ). Sunday morning football can not always raise 2 linesmen ( Old money )
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Post by michaelefc on Jun 19, 2017 18:15:51 GMT
Cant believe there is so much support for what I consider a truly bonkers idea. It works in rugby, because that is very much a stop start game, football isn't. Exactly when is the watch going to be stopped? The practicalities of it are just mind boggling. What happens when there is 29.59 seconds gone and there is a free kick 30 yards from goal, imagine the bedlam, as there famously was when Brazil were denied a goal in similar circumstances, and if you say allow play to continue until the next stop in play, then a defending team leading the game, will just make an obvious foul to get the game stopped. Very silly idea.
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Post by taylov on Jun 19, 2017 18:53:18 GMT
Another daft experiment - any one else remember the Ryman League replacing throw-ins back in the 1990s? You had a kick-in instead which meant that the whole game seemed to be a series of high balls into the box.
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Post by thelake on Jun 19, 2017 19:43:45 GMT
whilst its an interesting idea, think it would be mad to bring it in.
Football rules basically work pretty well (barring offside which is sometimes confusing).
if you are making changes to the game they have to be carefully considered, that goes for things like video technology as well.
am in favour of it in principle but a) what decisions would it be for? b) who could apply it, either team? the ref? an official watching a video screen? c) how would the rules differ as we go further down the pyramid?
lots of things to think about!
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Post by blueandwhite on Jun 20, 2017 21:46:17 GMT
simply a nuts idea!!!!
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