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Post by grumpy on Sept 22, 2016 8:14:12 GMT
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Post by Bruce Forbes on Sept 22, 2016 8:21:54 GMT
WOW!!!!!!!!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 8:26:00 GMT
41 years of age?? There's hope for me yet!...
Strange that RM has stated in the article that he sees Jamie as being an impact player? That means he's another sub...are we not trying to sign players who can get into the starting 11?
No mention of the length of deal, so could be a short term deal, although Jamie talks about joining to win promotion at the end of the season etc, so certainly sounds like he'll be here for the remainder of this season.
A strange signing, but he does score goals, so lets hope he has the impact Ronnie believes he will have.
Welcome Jamie old chap...
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Post by westendspitfire on Sept 22, 2016 8:40:30 GMT
Perfect timing getting the youngsters in for the game thats free for students
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 8:54:54 GMT
No disrespect to Jamie at all, but its a real shame that 41 yr olds get moves to clubs around these levels, yet we have a young lad in Tony Lee who is scoring goals in the Conf south, had been scoring goals in our own reserve side, who could equally sit on the bench for our first team then come on last 15 mins and try and make an impact. I would far rather we give youth a chance than sign 41 yr olds. I'm sure RM wants the experience and the proven goals track record that Jamie will bring us, but we all sit here and wonder why our national teams are not doing well and where are the latest youth products coming from etc, well this is exactly the reason why nothing new comes through, because the old'uns are stifling their pathway into first teams around the country.
As i say, not knocking Jamie and not saying he's a bad signing, but come on, 41 yrs of age? Surely we can give Tony Lee a go ahead of someone like this, who has had his day and has had a great career and in truth will probably only get a few mins here & there for us in total throughout this season. We've gone this route before with signings such as Joe Tessam, Deon Burton & a few others i cant even remember the names of, but there rarely work out well. It just doesn't make me feel excited to come along on Saturday and thats a real shame. Just as i was starting to feel really excited about coming to Eastleigh games again, we go and do this. I really hate when i go all negative, but this really makes me feel that i'm paying to go watch yesteryears footballers. Sure the ST are cheap, sure it doesn't cost much, and i love the people (most of them anyway) but if this is the way forward & the best striker option we can find, with all our riches and our owners enthusiasm, then i find myself switching off from it all again. Sorry, but that's how i feel about our latest headline act. Maybe we should get Peter Shilton to go in goal? Or Teddy Sheringham to have a go up top alongside Jamie C..
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Post by taylov on Sept 22, 2016 9:26:19 GMT
Don't care if he's 61 as long as he can still score goals, and if it turns out he can't, well the walking football team will welcome him with open arms.
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Post by steve on Sept 22, 2016 9:26:23 GMT
Stuart Douglas & Andy Harris to follow!
Can't knock the experience - but almost double Mandron's age!!
In Ronnie we trust...!!!
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Post by hantslondoner on Sept 22, 2016 9:29:26 GMT
Not completely sure about this either. Saw him play for Farnborough earlier in the season, still looked pretty fit and still had his goalscoring instincts. And that was on his debut. 8 goals 7 apps, according to Wiki.
However, that was at Southern League Div 1 Central level. Farnborough lost 3-2 to Petersfield (he scored both), so that maybe puts it into context.
Not sure how he'll fare at National level nowadays, using him as an impact player would seem to be the best (only) option. He is a bit different to our other strikers.
Yes, his experience will be valuable (maybe he can help Mandron develop his instincts better, for example) but we don't have an awful lot of non-experienced first-team players to pass his experience on to. Unless we're planning to get him on the coaching staff? Otherwise it looks like a short-term fix to get us promoted.
Anyway, welcome and good luck to Jamie!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 10:18:55 GMT
I checked to see it wasn't April 1st.....but he will score more than beano!! Welcome Jamie 15+ please.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 10:37:47 GMT
Do you really see 15 goals from an impact player who will get 10-15 mins here and there in games when we need a goal? It just means that Beano still starts with Mandron, so no real improvement on anything for me. It probably means that Bird now comes out of the matchday 16, so he becomes yet another recent signing that we no longer need. Signing a 41 yr old, when we have SD's riches, just smacks of sheer desperation to me. Surely we can do better in the transfer market than that? I fully understand that clubs in the FL will not want to lose good strikers at this time of year, knowing that they cannot get replacements in until the window in January, so better striker are hide to prize away when looking into the FL to sign better players in September, but for us plucking old men from clubs down the footballing pyramid, doesn't show me we are a club on the up or a club that is thinking ahead. I predict he will finish the season, assuming he's staying all year, with no more than 5 goals. I've no doubt whatsoever that if we sat Tony Lee on the bench all year and also brought him on in games where we need a goal, he would also end up with about 5 goals. As would Beano, as would Bird, so what is the point?, where is the improvement on what we've got?
I've no doubt that now i've said all this, he will come on at 0-0 for us in the last 10 mins on Saturday and will net the winner..!
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 10:58:51 GMT
Not going to comment on Cureton's current ability but we are doing exactly the same as Crawley/ Fleetwood and the likes, buy up fairly cheap, reliable - dare I say it old pros to do us a job to achieve this apparent dream of football league football, we're not actually building anything for long term on the field, I'm not exactly asking for a Barcelona style set up I just hope it doesn't hurt us in 5-10 years. We've got nothing coming through the reserves/youth system and the 3/4 lads that have a chance don't physically get a chance on the pitch but just get recalled to and from their loaned clubs when we fancy it, usually against opposition worse than they play against for their loaned out clubs.
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Post by hantslondoner on Sept 22, 2016 11:17:52 GMT
How much more money do we get if we go up to League 2?
If we get a lot more than now (TV rights, etc.) then it may make perfect sense to make a quick fix or two and then build for the future (or buy more expensive old pros) as and when we get promoted. Ryan Clarke's signing sounds a bit like that, too, although 34 isn't old for a keeper, and we don't know if he's been bought as a no 1 or no 2 in goal.
Jamie Cureton could well still be good at this level, and he offers us a different option. I've heard a lot of moaning when Bird is brought on for Constable, for example. Like for like. Cureton is not like the other strikers we have (although to be fair I've seen little of Lee or Wilson) and he could be good for an important goal or two.
I wouldn't be surprised to see another striker come in to replace Bird or Wilson.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 22, 2016 12:16:48 GMT
Do you really think money from L2 will make the slightest difference to us as a football club that is owned my a multi/mega millionaire? We have an owner who has more money than the rest of the L2 clubs put together (i dont know that for sure, but its a fair guess..), he is not in this for the money, nor will L2 or TV money have any impact on the quality of player we bring in in the future. SD could from a financial perspective, go and sign the best striker in the Championship right now, but the problem is the Championship club would not sell and the player would not come, as he would not drop to this level, he would also not drop to L2 if we were in that division, why would he? So the money doesn't mean a great deal when going after quality. What having money at this level does do, is ensure that you have all the agents with their ageing players constantly on the phone trying to get a last big contract before they retire. And although people wont like me saying it, that is exactly where we are right now. So once we have exhausted the tried & tested method of trying to persuade good L2 strikers to drop a level (for which they are being heavily compensated for doing so), we are left with excepting calls from agents & are then sifting through the names we are being offered, then picking one or two out as "interested". I'm all for unearthing gems from the lower divisions, but they need to be the right age so that we can develop them and players who maybe then even have a sell on value should they progress well, such as a Luke Coulson or a Mika Mandron. But realistically, what is a 41 yr old impact striker really going to add to us and what will he give us, 5 goals? Can we really not get 5 goals from anyone else in these football leagues either above us or below us, who will at least have potential to grow with us and who we can develop into a better player than when he arrived? I agree with Callum's sentiments, that this is all about short term gain, it really doesn't show us scouting a proper player who can have a far greater impact over a far longer timeframe & grow with us for the lenght of his 2-3 year contract. I know SD wants FL and i know how badly he wants it, so i do get why we might be going short term to get us to the promised land, but we then need to have something coming up behind that, both in terms of a plan and in terms of players coming through. I'm not suggesting SD doesn't have a plan, i know he does, but when the plan looks in jeopardy, we tend to just chuck money at it. But i would fear that we just go from short term to short term, and i see us repeating this again if we did go up, to just all be about short terms deals to get us to L1...which is exactly as Callum points out, was the method that Crawley used. For the last 2-3 seasons they have struggled at the foot of L2 and have gone through several managers & squad overhauls in that period. No plan, no direction, no idea. I really hope we do not become the next Crawley, because believe me, there are thousands of opposition fans who have been calling us that since SD took over. Please, lets not give them the ammunition to say i told you so..
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Post by hantslondoner on Sept 22, 2016 12:37:54 GMT
'Do you really think money from L2 will make the slightest difference to us as a football club that is owned my a multi/mega millionaire?'
I don't know, that was why I was asking. Is the extra L2 money significant? Appreciate SD could try and splash the cash now, but.... I was under the impression that in the end he wanted Eastleigh to pay its own way. With more FL money we could make a start on that, and start a long-term. But maybe he feels we've just got to get into the FL first. I would be surprised if he then did the same for L2 to L1, or at least until the club became sustainable at that level. So how much does SD intervene now, and risk making us like Crawley, as you say, and at what point will he try the long-term plan we're referring to? That's why I also described the signing of Cureton and possibly Clarke as 'short term'.
It's a tricky decision for SD, I would say. But my guess as to his approach is what I've just said. Get us up first, then look at the whole project. Obviously RM has some input too. As we've asked before, has he been signed just to get us up (and then survive that crucial first season in L2 - 2 year contract)? I'd be interested to know.
And by the way, yes, 5 goals at the right times in the right games could make a huge difference.
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Post by stewartdonald on Sept 22, 2016 12:40:03 GMT
It is lucky I am not easily offended.
People can keep knocking the club as much as they like whether its free travel, new fans, younger fans, road closures or signing one older player to cover an injury. When we have invested in youth with Mandron/Coulson/Wilson and for the first time managed to get our youngsters on loan to Conference South level at Truro and Whitehawk and chosen that 90 minutes there week in week out is better than a cameo role behind them. Lets focus on one singing that says all of that is no improvement as we were certainly on the right track with the youth policy of 5 years ago - where are those youngsters playing now - have they all made league footballers?
Keep knocking the club and it appointments - don't praise the good signings or the positives just keep being negative guys. Look for the issues, don't be grateful this club was heading towards the Ryman League (with a Ryman League standard ground) and now it looks more likely to see the Football League (with a football League standard ground) than the Ryman League. Moan about the parking, the increase in fanbase the FA Cup exposure whatever we can - it won't break us - if it is that bad just keep moaning.
Don't congratulate the club or be proud of its achievements. Don be thankful it is financial secure, has no overdraft, is the cheapest club in the top 5 divisions to watch or tries to as accessible as possible to its community. Instead focus on anything negative you can find
YOU MISERABLE BUNCH!!!!!!
Cant wait to be cheered up by you all Saturday!!!
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