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Post by back4more on Mar 15, 2016 14:14:45 GMT
As I've said before Paul, you shouldn't take it so personally.
I have no comment to make on your football knowledge nor your knowledge of Eastleigh FC. Your comments make it clear that you see yourself as an authority on everything to do with the club and that's fine, but if I disagree strongly with something you say I will say so.
It's a shame you see the need to respond with inaccurate statements about what I have said and with what seems like a criticism of the extent to which I comment on the forum. That doesn't surprise me for some reason but I don't have any plans to change the way I contribute to the forum.
Contrary to what you say I believe I have commented on most of the games we have played this season including the draws and losses and can even remember saying weeks ago that we will lose a lot more before we manage to get ourselves promoted.
Also contrary to your claims, I have stated my opinions on here very clearly. As I said if they are different from your opinions or not as negative as you would like, they are still my opinions.
What I don't try to do is to undertake a detailed analysis on team selection or anything else. Brief posts are more appropriate to this forum. If ever I think things are not going in the right direction though you can be sure you will see me say so.
By the way re the games you didn't see, my response was to your comments about those matches including the statement that we were just papering over the cracks. Anyone who disparages a team for their performance in a game they didn't see is not in a strong position in my book. There are enough of those herberts on 606 every week.
Your comments about my son also call your credibility into question and if anyone doubted that you are making a personal attack on me because I have challenged your opinion then that must clinch it for them. Paul does not and never has worked for the club. He, like many other people, has given the club a lot of his time voluntarily in the past without seeking or getting any personal recompense. His relationships with people at the club are his own and I am not vain enough to think that any of the people he has contact with there give two hoots what I have to say on here.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 14:49:49 GMT
You are funny, John, you really are.
You haven't challenged my opinion, you have questioned whether i should even be allowed to have an opinion, given i hadn't been to the last 2 games. Sounds like you believe have to go to a game, to be able to post any opinion about how a result went, or what i think of a team line up?
As for questioning my credibility, i'm not after credits, John. I'm not a forum sycopant, i don't crave respect and i'm certainly no trying to be a leading authority, as i said, there are plenty more who know alot more about EFC and football than i do, and i respect those people.
Carry on your with your toe the line policies & paying lip service to the players and club, and i'll stick to me more forthright opinions, which appear to be more inline with how the majority of fans are thinking. I think its very refreshing that we have new people like "SunnySaturdays" coming on here and posting some very good opinions and thought provoking points of view. It's a shame you have already taken to trying to rubbish him off in the same way that you tend to go at my posts, and you go at them with so little substance, that could probably call your credibility into question, but i think too many people have already questioned yours, so i'll just leave that there.
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Post by dave on Mar 15, 2016 14:58:47 GMT
Blackie, FYI we were not rank awful against Braintree. They produced their best performance of the season (their manager's words after the game) and the sending off cost us resulting in having to use our subs early. We then ended up playing with 9 when Andy Drury was injured and their second goal came after he was unable to get a challenge in as he was basically playing on one leg at the time. You and I must be watching different teams. The team I watched away at Braintree certainly were awful, the sending off and the injury wouldn't have stopped us losing that one, in fact if they had gone down to 9 men I think we would still have lost, if anything the only good thing about the day was that we only let in two!
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Post by back4more on Mar 15, 2016 15:29:38 GMT
You are funny, John, you really are. You haven't challenged my opinion, you have questioned whether i should even be allowed to have an opinion, given i hadn't been to the last 2 games. Sounds like you believe have to go to a game, to be able to post any opinion about how a result went, or what i think of a team line up? As for questioning my credibility, i'm not after credits, John. I'm not a forum sycopant, i don't crave respect and i'm certainly no trying to be a leading authority, as i said, there are plenty more who know alot more about EFC and football than i do, and i respect those people. Carry on your with your toe the line policies & paying lip service to the players and club, and i'll stick to me more forthright opinions, which appear to be more inline with how the majority of fans are thinking. I think its very refreshing that we have new people like "SunnySaturdays" coming on here and posting some very good opinions and thought provoking points of view. It's a shame you have already taken to trying to rubbish him off in the same way that you tend to go at my posts, and you go at them with so little substance, that could probably call your credibility into question, but i think too many people have already questioned yours, so i'll just leave that there. Good to see you see yourself as the spokesman for the "majority of the fans" Paul. Perhaps those you do know just agree with you to save themselves from having you make personal attacks on them and their families. As regards Sunny Saturdays I enjoy seeing his posts and his avatar or whatever you call it. I find I agree with some (possibly most) of his posts and not others and certainly think I said I saw things the same way as he did on some recent postings he made. As I do with your posts though Paul, if I disagree with his comments I might tend to say so. I am not looking to toe any lines but do admit to trying to see things in perspective as I have explained rather than jumping on some bandwagon based on the views of others.
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Post by back4more on Mar 15, 2016 15:47:03 GMT
Blackie, FYI we were not rank awful against Braintree. They produced their best performance of the season (their manager's words after the game) and the sending off cost us resulting in having to use our subs early. We then ended up playing with 9 when Andy Drury was injured and their second goal came after he was unable to get a challenge in as he was basically playing on one leg at the time. You and I must be watching different teams. The team I watched away at Braintree certainly were awful, the sending off and the injury wouldn't have stopped us losing that one, in fact if they had gone down to 9 men I think we would still have lost, if anything the only good thing about the day was that we only let in two! Like I said to Sattsy Dave, I try to see things in perspective and on that basis I though "rank awful" was a bit harsh when you consider the problems we gave ourselves. I did like your post after the Braintree game which was as follows and I thought summed it up well:- "CT wasn't appointed as manager for the short term & would getting rid of him do anything, no the new boss would have to start again & in a years time we would still be saying its not his team its Todds team or its still Hills team, most supporters wanted CT to have the job & when we went unbeaten after his appointment he was a football genius! Ok we are on a poor run at the moment, but how many of us actually believe hes suddenly become a poor manager, he has done less than 6 months in his first managerial job, give the bloke a chance.
As for the players, some of them certainly need to have a look at what they are doing but singling them out on here won't help, they know themselves if they have played well or if they have given their all for the cause, but reading on here that they are unfit or dog s**t won't help their morale."
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 16:10:08 GMT
The team I watched away at Braintree certainly were awful, the sending off and the injury wouldn't have stopped us losing that one, in fact if they had gone down to 9 men I think we would still have lost, if anything the only good thing about the day was that we only let in two! Like I said to Sattsy Dave, I try to see things in perspective and on that basis I though "rank awful" was a bit harsh when you consider the problems we gave ourselves. I did like your post after the Braintree game which was as follows and I thought summed it up well:- "CT wasn't appointed as manager for the short term & would getting rid of him do anything, no the new boss would have to start again & in a years time we would still be saying its not his team its Todds team or its still Hills team, most supporters wanted CT to have the job & when we went unbeaten after his appointment he was a football genius! Ok we are on a poor run at the moment, but how many of us actually believe hes suddenly become a poor manager, he has done less than 6 months in his first managerial job, give the bloke a chance.
As for the players, some of them certainly need to have a look at what they are doing but singling them out on here won't help, they know themselves if they have played well or if they have given their all for the cause, but reading on here that they are unfit or dog s**t won't help their morale."My question is..... Do people still think Jai is unfit and should be dropped, or have they now realised what his strengths are ?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 16:11:16 GMT
Bandwaggon?, is there one then? What is its purpose?
I don't attack anyone, John, and as for attacking families?, if you mean my comment/opinion on you keeping things smooth with the players for Paul on this forum, that's not an attack on Paul, that just me questioning your motives. I have no motives, only opinions.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 16:18:42 GMT
It might be just me but I really find myself hoping Beano starts one of the next couple of games with Tubbs, gets MOM and smashes in a hattrick :0) I hope he does, but I hope it's done in a way to suit his strengths, and not us reverting back to type for it to go flat again the following week, as that won't suit us, or Beano long term.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 16:31:54 GMT
I think you should be his agent Rendel....that's not going to happen. If he starts & scores a hat trick, i'll hand my season ticket back in, hows that. Infact i might even do that if he starts anyway. Tubbs and Yemi deserves to start by the sound of it, although i wasn't at the game you see, so i couldn't possibly know anything.
Spokesman for the majority of fans, over & out. See you tonight, yeh i'm actually coming. Do we still play in Blue? Can i go and stand in the away end? Have you sent out enough FB alerts? i havent seen any? Can i pay on the gate? Have you arranged a minibus that will take me from the muddy field i'll have to park in, to get me to the Silverlake Stadium?
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Post by dave on Mar 15, 2016 16:45:26 GMT
The team I watched away at Braintree certainly were awful, the sending off and the injury wouldn't have stopped us losing that one, in fact if they had gone down to 9 men I think we would still have lost, if anything the only good thing about the day was that we only let in two! Like I said to Sattsy Dave, I try to see things in perspective and on that basis I though "rank awful" was a bit harsh when you consider the problems we gave ourselves. I did like your post after the Braintree game which was as follows and I thought summed it up well:- "CT wasn't appointed as manager for the short term & would getting rid of him do anything, no the new boss would have to start again & in a years time we would still be saying its not his team its Todds team or its still Hills team, most supporters wanted CT to have the job & when we went unbeaten after his appointment he was a football genius! Ok we are on a poor run at the moment, but how many of us actually believe hes suddenly become a poor manager, he has done less than 6 months in his first managerial job, give the bloke a chance.
As for the players, some of them certainly need to have a look at what they are doing but singling them out on here won't help, they know themselves if they have played well or if they have given their all for the cause, but reading on here that they are unfit or dog s**t won't help their morale."I too try to see things in perspective, no team is going to win every game & I have to pick & choose which games I can get too, I've only managed 8 away this season and will probably only get to Torquay of the remainder, leaving the FA Cup games out the away games I've been to haven't been our finest, at Braintree not too much went right & we thoroughly deserved the result, for me Gateshead was worse, the players didn't look interested that night & whilst I don't mind watching them lose I do mind when there is no passion or effort put into the game.
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Post by back4more on Mar 15, 2016 17:00:50 GMT
From SS
"My question is.....
Do people still think Jai is unfit and should be dropped, or have they now realised what his strengths are ? "
I thought he was exceptional on Saturday. Josh Payne also came up trumps as I think did Luke Coulson.
This is where you start to get interesting options, say for example would Beano work better with that midfield supporting him etc etc?
On the other hand would you drop Yemi or Matt Tubbs?
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Post by back4more on Mar 15, 2016 17:05:15 GMT
From Dave:
"I too try to see things in perspective, no team is going to win every game & I have to pick & choose which games I can get too, I've only managed 8 away this season and will probably only get to Torquay of the remainder, leaving the FA Cup games out the away games I've been to haven't been our finest, at Braintree not too much went right & we thoroughly deserved the result, for me Gateshead was worse, the players didn't look interested that night & whilst I don't mind watching them lose I do mind when there is no passion or effort put into the game."
I got to Gateshead last year but missed it this time round. That must have been a hell of a frustrating trip. It was that feeling of post Bolton loss of motivation in the side that we really had to get away from.
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Post by back4more on Mar 15, 2016 17:55:37 GMT
Bandwaggon?, is there one then? What is its purpose? I don't attack anyone, John, and as for attacking families?, if you mean my comment/opinion on you keeping things smooth with the players for Paul on this forum, that's not an attack on Paul, that just me questioning your motives. I have no motives, only opinions. I just noticed your last post Paul. You could not be wider from the mark. As I keep saying, an opinion does not have to be negative to be valid and a positive or a balanced opinion does not have to have some ulterior motive. The problem you have I think is still that you just can't tolerate any kind of alternative viewpoint from your own.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 18:12:03 GMT
As i keep saying John, you dont really give opinions, you just gripe at others opinions, so i have no way of tolerating or not tolerating your opinion, because you rarely give one.
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Post by back4more on Mar 15, 2016 18:49:58 GMT
If you recall Paul, my initial post was in agreement with your opinions on this thread.
I think your attack on my forum contributions came from me pointing out that you were effectively denigrating the team's performances in games you hadn't seen.
That is a counterproductive thing to do, whatever you might think about my posts.
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