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Post by bushfire on Jul 3, 2016 20:50:17 GMT
It was reported in today's Non League Paper that Ebbsfleets playing budget for last season was £1.2 million, or £25,000 per week. A famous non league Manager said at the end of last season that a playing budget in the Conference South of £25,000 per week would not guarantee you promotion and that a budget of £15,000 per week would probably get you relegated. This is a rediculous situation and can only lead to more clubs getting into financial difficulties, when their benifactors suddenly leave. When are the FA going to insist on financial fair play rules being adopted by the National League.
I think the big spenders in the National League could literally go for broke this season with the abolition of the transfer window. Who's bright idea was that. Apart from ourselves and Forest Green, other teams like Barrow and Gateshead will really be going for it.
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Post by michaelefc on Jul 4, 2016 6:38:58 GMT
The trouble with financial fair play is that it is anything but fair. It effectively means the big clubs will always have more money than small clubs to spend, and the chances of a Bournemouth breaking into the big time will be seriously reduced. And after all if SD or anyone one else wants to spend their money on a football club, what right has anyone got to stop them doing it? By all means insist on having a close look at the finances and insist that the money is given not lent, but in reality, financial fair play is a complete nonsense and always will be.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 4, 2016 7:46:21 GMT
The National League has in place a rule on budgets in that each team must set a figure they can afford for that season. My understanding is that once set by each team they are not allowed to exceed that figure during the season. Ebbsfleet's owner is cutting back on his financial support on the playing side (Ground improvement is the reason why) and they will have a reduced budget. Ours will be top three I suspect in our league this season, if not top, but that was a decision for SD and the board, obviously we all hope it comes off with promotion next May. However, Tranmere, Barrow, Gateshead, Dagenham, Forest Green and Wrexham have spent very well close season, I think its very open this year and a good start is vital. I will be running the top six prediction challenge again this season and it will be very interesting to see what we all think will be the top six teams come May, details of the challenge will be posted some time next week, lets see if the prize fund can exceed £100 for the first time.
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Post by bushfire on Jul 4, 2016 18:11:18 GMT
.My thread was not a criticism of SD. It was a concern that I have that a lot of owners have no long term vision for the club that they bankroll. They throw money at it over a couple of seasons to try and gain some short of short term glory and then walk away. SD and for that matter the owner of Forest Green have shown vision and the desire to take the club forward on all fronts. Financial fair play is all about sustainability. There have been far to many owners in recent years who have spent big on the playing budget, but done nothing for the infrastructure or the club, or set the club on the course of some sort future financial stability. I just think that the ending of the transfer window is a bad move and will encourage some owners into short termism.
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Post by stewartdonald on Jul 4, 2016 22:15:15 GMT
I would abolish the transfer window full stop. We never used to have one and it makes January such a circus. It is a ridiculous situation and behind the scenes January is Chaotic - clubs who have spent to try for promotion that no longer think they can achieve it are trying to offload players and clubs going for it are going for broke. It is quite damaging in itself.
Regarding FFP - I think money should just be gifted, clubs should not be allowed an overdraft ( one of the first things I paid off when I came to the club - we now don't have one), football creditors should not be given preference if a club goes into administration. HMRC should be settled monthly and be audited. Those things would make a huge difference and a few more things as well.
There are no current rules under the National League SOE. All clubs fill in a quarterly budget which is checked and then substantiated if required. So it is monitored regularly and clubs explain there plans but clubs can exceed their budgets. If they do they are asked to explain it but it is after the event. Better than nothing and the National league have a much better grasp of things but not true FFP.
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Post by michaelefc on Jul 5, 2016 6:45:27 GMT
Regarding FFP - I think money should just be gifted, clubs should not be allowed an overdraft ( one of the first things I paid off when I came to the club - we now don't have one), football creditors should not be given preference if a club goes into administration. HMRC should be settled monthly and be audited. Those things would make a huge difference and a few more things as well.
Precisely. Do this and no need for FFP.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2016 7:13:28 GMT
Should'nt SD be on the National League Board? He talks a lot of sense with sound ideas. I like his HMRC monthly idea....so simple yet would be so effective.
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Post by bushfire on Jul 5, 2016 18:21:23 GMT
Could not agree more about monthly payments for VAT and HMRC. This is the liability that has undone many clubs. If this had to be paid monthly, finding this money every month would draw the Directors attention to overspending and unsustainable budgets. This in affect would be a monthly sanity check.
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