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Post by tenacres on May 1, 2016 13:18:15 GMT
Not convinced this sort of thing is best to be on a forum but as its made it on here might as well have its own thread away from the match.
Pre match a couple of messages were sent via social media to 2 of our more prominent fans asking for a pre game "meet up" in an industrial estate. these messages were (rightly) ignored.
The game was segregated so no real issues till after the game where there was a lot of posturing/gesturing from both sets of fans and a few people got on the pitch. The police/stewards focussed almost entirely on the away fans & hardly at all in calming the home fans. Woking were certainly the main aggressors here although some of our fans did react.
After this both sets of fans exited the ground via the kingfield road entrance and come into contact with each other. This was obviously going to lead to an altercation but there were virtually no police/stewards on the scene initially which was very poor. In the end at least 2 of ours got punched and one fan got a split lip from a police truncheon! I'm pretty sure that Woking threw the first punch.
In the end I don't think anyone got arrested or seriously injured so things could have been a lot worse.
Walking into Woking after the match the Eastleigh fans naturally dispersed & things could have flared up again but fortunately not.
There were quite a few police at the train station which was an irrelevance, they weren't on th scene when it mattered, things could have got nastier.
There has always been aggro/violence at Woking & there probably always will be.
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Post by taylov on May 1, 2016 15:07:41 GMT
I posted this on the match thread in response to a report from back4more -
"Shame also about the carry on at the end. It looked from a distance like their "fans" might have started it but coming out of the ground there were clearly Eastleigh "supporters" getting involved which doesn't help our club's reputation at all. I thought the Woking police and stewards dealt with the situation well and should be commended for their proportionate response. I'd have banged the lot up for the night."
We seem to have attracted some very stupid people into our "fanbase" of late. I know that it happened before (Salisbury for example), but if the police were involved, then every Police Force in the country will get an email update Monday Morning and we will get the "Barnet treatment" everywhere next season. Trouble is, mud sticks.
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Post by boyatthood on May 1, 2016 15:18:13 GMT
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Post by hantslondoner on May 1, 2016 15:37:45 GMT
We had ten police cars at Testwood Park on Friday to control a few Bournemouth Manor fans who got p***ed in the Hants Intermediate Cup Final (you know, the one Eastleigh were going to hold) and started getting silly. Ten cars was massively excessive! Estimated crowd 220.
As I've posted before, I've never liked Woking. Some of them not pleasant, and they don't like us either. At least we have some 'local' rivals now. They must have noticed that we're better than Aldershot now. Shame if we've attracted a few idiots, looking at how our supporter base has grown the law of averages will dictate that we'll get some.
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Post by upthespitfires on May 5, 2016 11:23:35 GMT
We were parked in the car park and the police dogs were arriving just as we made a swift exit. Wasn't comfortable exiting to the car park will all the commotion going on. A taxi driver actually said 'well that's a good display for your clubs reputation'. It's an embarrassment and these so called fans should be named and shamed. Certainly don't want other clubs to feel the need to up their security when the 'hooligans from Eastleigh' visit.
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Post by Deleted on May 5, 2016 14:32:04 GMT
It's strange how these stories tend to only appear once a year - just after we have played Woking! I've been to their ground several times watching several different teams and there always seems to be aggro. I wasn't there so i'm not saying Spitfire 'fans' are totally innocent, but there is a recurring theme here!
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Post by upthespitfires on May 5, 2016 18:51:27 GMT
It's strange how these stories tend to only appear once a year - just after we have played Woking! I've been to their ground several times watching several different teams and there always seems to be aggro. I wasn't there so i'm not saying Spitfire 'fans' are totally innocent, but there is a recurring theme here! Don't really think the stewards knew what they were doing. In the second half a bunch of Eastleigh fans went further down the terracing nearer the Woking fans so maybe there was a big of aggro there. Lots of emotion and lots of alcohol = ?!!
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Post by tenacres on May 5, 2016 19:23:49 GMT
We were kicking that way so naturally the majority of away fans will go to the way we are kicking (as we did in the first half).
Woking definitely instigated this, I saw it with my own eyes. We didn't get aggro at Aldershot, Cheltenham, FGR did we?
I know we have a few fans who will react to being provoked but hardly any (if any) will actually start it. The vast majority of us are there for the football or the camaraderie/day out - not for a punch up. I get the idea with Woking they have 50-100 who aren't really interested in the football and want a ruckus at a level which is often under the raider of the police/authorities. Them trying to arrange a meet up pre the game for a brawl doesn't exactly disprove this.
I remember a thread on here on the start of this season about it all, where some suggested the game need not be segregated!!! Oh well, we have it all to look forward to again next season! Will be like Saturday squared if its actually a crucial game.
I don't like this sort of stuff but unfortunately it does seem to be part and parcel of football at this level. In a very weird way all the aggro at Crewe kind of added to the "big game" occasion. Mind you I say this having had glass land a couple of feet away - had it landed in my face I wouldn't quite feel the same! I can certainly understand those who are put off by it.
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Post by upthespitfires on May 5, 2016 20:09:14 GMT
Glad the glass didn't do any damage but what if it was one of our youngsters? It's a pretty sad state when young kids are subjected to seeing and being victims of this violence (not to mention the abuse shouted at our number one young fan). We never used to have segregation in conf south - I wonder why the trouble (which admittedly is at the minority of matches) is happening now?
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Post by efcspitfire on May 6, 2016 5:18:31 GMT
Segregation is standard in the conference.
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Post by upthespitfires on May 6, 2016 6:45:07 GMT
Segregation is standard in the conference. I know but I was trying to say that we never had segregation in conf south and, despite this never had any of these problems. Maybe it gets worse the higher up the league you get? Or maybe we have gained a few supporters there just to make trouble? Very sad when SD puts so much effort into making Eastleigh FC a family friendly club who we should be proud to have in our 'village team in Hampshire' lol. Only seems to be away games too.
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 8:28:50 GMT
This whole thread just makes me laugh.
You wanted promotion. You wanted more fans. You wanted more fans to travel to away games. You wanted more passion. You wanted more success. Yet you don't want to accept that all of the above will come with an element of things that you no longer like about football at the higher levels. You only want buddist monks to join the fan base and attend away games? You only want people to come to games with a flask of coffee and a blanket to put over their knees to attend away games. You want people just to go home quiet immediately after the final whistle. Laughable.
Not one person has asked if these "Eastleigh fans" were just defending themselves? Not one person has considered that we get trouble at Woking EVERY YEAR. Then you act all surprised and upset when someone stands their ground because they wont be bullied by the Woking mob? You are the kind of people who will instantly condemn & try to out the Eastleigh few who stood their ground. You will instantly cry that its not want you want. You will instantly come on here saying you do not want this kind of thread on our forum, but you will start the thread anyway!
You are not the kind of fans that i would call a fellow fan. You are not a fan i would stand beside. You are not Eastleigh FC fans, your are people on a comfortable day out with your flask of coffee, who doesn't want to get wet or cold or get shouted at by opposition fans during a game. If you have kids with you fair enough, but if you are a grown man, you should be ashamed of yourselves for not helping your own fans who may have been in trouble against Woking unfriendly fan base. You turn your nose up if you even have to walk on the same pavement of these "hooligan" fans on the way out of a game, making a "Swift exit"?. You don't want to sing or show the opposition that you are passionate about your team. But you want everyone else to sing on your behalf.
No thanks, that fact that you are trying to condemn these Eastleigh hero's who stood their ground before even asking them what went on, tells me more about you lot, than it does about the Hero's. I know which group of supporters i would rather stand beside.
Edit: Rendel, you have mentioned a couple of times now about Woking asking for a pre-match get together on Social media, but i never saw that, have you made that up?
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Post by martync1984 on May 6, 2016 11:53:35 GMT
I strongly believe it was not our fans causing the trouble. Woking fans were clearly spoiling for a fight! I had my 7 year old son with me and he became very distressed by the fighting as we had to walk very close to it to get out but it was a result of poor policing and it hasn't made him not want to go to another away game. One altercation I saw was a Woking fan asking one of our fans "if he wanted to go then" this fan then proceeded to attempt to attack the Eastleigh fan. So from what I saw our fans were protecting themselves and not actually instigating the fighting!
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Post by westendspitfire on May 6, 2016 12:11:15 GMT
Love it Sattsy!!! Come on enlighten us, if the previous posters haven't asked the questions before condemning, which questions did you ask and more importantly what answers did you get to decide that those involved were hero's? Come on Eastleigh Boys.......
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2016 12:54:22 GMT
I haven't asked any questions, i do not need to. I wasn't at the game. I'm just making the point that those who were at the game, were then very quick to condemn our own fans for their part in the "ugly scenes". I'm also making the point that the person who started this thread, despite stating that he didn't feel this kind of thing should be put on our forum, then went ahead and started an entire thread about it. I've no doubt in my mind that anyone "caught up in the ugly scenes" will have been more heroic than those either fleeing the scene and making swift exits, or anyone who ran home & then pointed a finger from the safety of their armchair once they got home from the game.
I make no apologies about this, but i feel the hero's who helped their fellow fans are far better people than those who jump straight onto a computer to condemn what they saw from their own fans.
There is talk about "our no.1 fan" being abused (i assume that means Kyle?) If you all stood by and watched that and allowed it to happen, then you should all be ashamed of yourselves.
There is talk on this thread about us not needing "those type of fans" - I quite agree, we don't need the cowardly computer warrior fans who are prepared to try and name & shame their own & those who were protecting themselves from the oppositions idiot fans & were maybe sticking up for Kyle. You should all be ashamed of yourselves for walking by and not helping Kyle in that situation, preferring to make a swift exit and rush home to your keyboards to make a big deal of it on here.
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