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Post by taylov on Feb 17, 2016 8:27:48 GMT
"I see we are bringing in 3 new players. Good"
I heard SD say that his aim was to bring in 3 or 4 players. He didn't say this was a done deal. He explained the competition for good players, so let's not raise our expectations too much, please.
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Post by boyatthood on Feb 17, 2016 8:34:36 GMT
The two inept performances against relegation strugglers I am guessing you are referring to are Kidderminster and Boreham Wood? (Nearly a month ago) We miss Drury and Reason badly,especially Drury. Im not arguing we don't need new players,we do and there are some that need replacing but suggesting everyone who has played over 10 games is utter madness!!! I agree it is not a time to panic with widespread changes. Injuries have disrupted the team badly. The back four have particularly struggled with changes to the full backs. That said, I don't think our centre half pairings are strong enough to go up. The Turley/Evans partnership in particular. 43 goals conceded is very average for a team aspiring to go up. The team needs leaders at the moment and we miss Macallister and Stanley this season. The manager also needs to step up now, the honeymoon period is over. So far Todd has done exceptionally well but you earn your corn as a manager when you are on a run like this. Is he mean enough? Has he also signed the right players in January? Time will tell but Iam not sure if Mohamed, Coulson and Tubbs are adding anything extra at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 9:42:41 GMT
Question...
What makes us think an incoming loan signing will fight for the cause ?
You wouldn't think some of these players were asking for new contracts would you.
It's all well and good keep purchasing these ex league 2 players who have gone and done it, but perhaps that's the problem, they have already done it, so where is the motivation to achieve something new ?
Perhaps our entire transfer policy is wrong.
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Post by lisher22 on Feb 17, 2016 9:49:06 GMT
as much as I like m.poke but PLEASE CHRIS TODD PUT ROSS FLITNEY BACK IN GOAL he's a great talker to the back four. he comes for everything in the air. great shoot stopper. and yet he's been dumped out the team because of 1 mistake against Wrexham. what about all the times he's saved our bacon. no one remembers them moments. PLEASE CHRIS PUT ROSS BACK IN THE TEAM . 8 goals against us in 3 games is a joke for a side who want a place in the play off spots.i say want because we are not seeing them fight for it. apart from a couple of players.
and your right boyatthood the honeymoon period is over, and run like this cost RICHARD HILL a job.. Enough Said
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 9:49:58 GMT
The biggest problem with just clearing players out, is that you have to pay up their contracts, so it wouldn't be cheap. We don't need a full clear out, we have some very good players, but we do need to get rid of those who the manager feels cannot contribute to winning games of football, and right now there are quite a few who appear to lack the motivation to achieve that. Personally, i look at that situation differently. I like Toddy, but it's the managers job to motivate people and if he cannot do it then he needs to bring someone in as a coach who can. I'm not entirely sure what Shaun North does each week with the players, but on matchday's it seems to be Cooky who warms the lads up & takes them through their pre-match routines. Neither Todd or North are men who shout from the sidelines and i feel we are lacking in this area. I used to say the same about Hilly. If a game is going bad and players are not putting in the desired effort, its upto the manager and coach to get them to change that. I see none of that going on and i see players going through the motions. As someone else has said, listening to the commentary last night, i really felt for SD, as i know how much he wants promotion, so to have to sit through a game and try not to lose your temper, must have been very difficult. Sadly, its one of the pitfalls of spending big, in that you then have players on very decent salaries, who are maybe not as professional as we would like to think they are, and they just take the easy option of strolling through a game, knowing they will get the salary regardless. As ERC has suggested, i've always liked a more bonused approach to wages, as it motivates people, but the problem is, when you are trying to sign players who are also being courted by L2 clubs, then they are not going to come to us for a lower basic wage that has good bonuses, its just not going to entice them. Maybe that tells you all you need to know about them...but if you want L2 players to drop down a level, then facts are, you probably have to offer them L2+ half again to get them to drop down. So what does SD do? He licks his wounds, probably still wants to believe we can make the play offs, but deep down maybe knows we are coming up short? Its very easy for us all to spend his money and say, we need this, we need that, get rid of him him & him, but not all of that is possible from Feb-end of April. IMO, he really needs to think long and hard about next season and not just sign players who's agents have contacted the club. We need scouts, we need to be out scouting now, for the 6 key players that we will bring to the club next season. The problem is, we no longer have a scouting network, we are going on hearsay and agent talk & IMO, until we address that, we are going to end up signing mercenary type players, who see Eastleigh FC as a cash cow for a 2 year deal. We need to start being hard on people and on our players, we cant just keep on clap clap clapping after every game each week, when they are playing badly, losing the game & not putting in the effort to turn it around. I hope a few of them are reading this, and if they are, they deep down they probably know whether they are trying their very best or not. For those that are not, come on lads, that's not really on is it? We've all had it too good for too long under SD, its time we all woke up and realised that just chucking money at it, isn't going to work. Come on Toddy son, now's the time to earn your coin & get these lads going again.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 9:57:11 GMT
Shame you can't scout for us Paul as I know you've got a really good eye for spotting a player a mile off...maybe part time eh???
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Post by efcspitfire on Feb 17, 2016 10:09:22 GMT
For me,Coulson has actually been a bright spark the last few weeks (one of very few) Tubbs has had no service from a makeshift midfield so can't really judge him yet,as for Kaid Mohammed I am really not sure what he brings to the team.
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Post by erc on Feb 17, 2016 10:19:35 GMT
The trouble with Tubbs is he was always going to need 6 games just to get back to fitness , the poor lads had so much time out this season this is almost like pre season for him, so how come we didn't put more of our energy on more long term players as Tubbs definitely isn't going to want to hang around judging by these last two games.
Next weeks opposition manager was there last night obviously scouting I really think his notepad will have been blank after that 90mins, nothing to be scared of for him at all, once again as per kiddy away we only started shooting once we were 2 down.
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Post by upthespitfires on Feb 17, 2016 10:27:04 GMT
Nope. It will happen again. Not sure though how many of us will see it. Anyway, hopefully it won't be on a Tuesday night. I was thinking more in league 2 the way the blades are playing ?
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Post by topmiler on Feb 17, 2016 10:29:57 GMT
as much as I like m.poke but PLEASE CHRIS TODD PUT ROSS FLITNEY BACK IN GOAL he's a great talker to the back four. he comes for everything in the air. great shoot stopper. and yet he's been dumped out the team because of 1 mistake against Wrexham. what about all the times he's saved our bacon. no one remembers them moments. PLEASE CHRIS PUT ROSS BACK IN THE TEAM . 8 goals against us in 3 games is a joke for a side who want a place in the play off spots.i say want because we are not seeing them fight for it. apart from a couple of players. and your right boyatthood the honeymoon period is over, and run like this cost RICHARD HILL a job.. Enough Said well said. GET ROSS BACK IN GOAL.........NOW.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 10:37:22 GMT
Tubbsy just needs a strike partner who can pass a ball forward to him. He doesn't have that here, unless we play Tubbs and Jai up top, with Jai playing just behind him.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2016 10:46:32 GMT
Should get the team in for 2 hours extra and make them listen to the Co commentary of the game last night just to hear Stewart's deflated voice.
Might make them buck their ideas up, especially after he sent most of these to Vegas.
Some are in for a rude awakening when they eventually leave EFC.
A massive open team talk is required to figure out what has changed so drastically. This looks to have stemmed from something off the pitch. You don't drop tools for nothing.
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Post by stewartdonald on Feb 17, 2016 11:38:03 GMT
The biggest problem with just clearing players out, is that you have to pay up their contracts, so it wouldn't be cheap. We don't need a full clear out, we have some very good players, but we do need to get rid of those who the manager feels cannot contribute to winning games of football, and right now there are quite a few who appear to lack the motivation to achieve that. Personally, i look at that situation differently. I like Toddy, but it's the managers job to motivate people and if he cannot do it then he needs to bring someone in as a coach who can. I'm not entirely sure what Shaun North does each week with the players, but on matchday's it seems to be Cooky who warms the lads up & takes them through their pre-match routines. Neither Todd or North are men who shout from the sidelines and i feel we are lacking in this area. I used to say the same about Hilly. If a game is going bad and players are not putting in the desired effort, its upto the manager and coach to get them to change that. I see none of that going on and i see players going through the motions. As someone else has said, listening to the commentary last night, i really felt for SD, as i know how much he wants promotion, so to have to sit through a game and try not to lose your temper, must have been very difficult. Sadly, its one of the pitfalls of spending big, in that you then have players on very decent salaries, who are maybe not as professional as we would like to think they are, and they just take the easy option of strolling through a game, knowing they will get the salary regardless. As ERC has suggested, i've always liked a more bonused approach to wages, as it motivates people, but the problem is, when you are trying to sign players who are also being courted by L2 clubs, then they are not going to come to us for a lower basic wage that has good bonuses, its just not going to entice them. Maybe that tells you all you need to know about them...but if you want L2 players to drop down a level, then facts are, you probably have to offer them L2+ half again to get them to drop down. So what does SD do? He licks his wounds, probably still wants to believe we can make the play offs, but deep down maybe knows we are coming up short? Its very easy for us all to spend his money and say, we need this, we need that, get rid of him him & him, but not all of that is possible from Feb-end of April. IMO, he really needs to think long and hard about next season and not just sign players who's agents have contacted the club. We need scouts, we need to be out scouting now, for the 6 key players that we will bring to the club next season. The problem is, we no longer have a scouting network, we are going on hearsay and agent talk & IMO, until we address that, we are going to end up signing mercenary type players, who see Eastleigh FC as a cash cow for a 2 year deal. We need to start being hard on people and on our players, we cant just keep on clap clap clapping after every game each week, when they are playing badly, losing the game & not putting in the effort to turn it around. I hope a few of them are reading this, and if they are, they deep down they probably know whether they are trying their very best or not. For those that are not, come on lads, that's not really on is it? We've all had it too good for too long under SD, its time we all woke up and realised that just chucking money at it, isn't going to work. Come on Toddy son, now's the time to earn your coin & get these lads going again. Sattsy - We have more scouts than ever - whether they are better or not is a different discussion but I am not sure why you would think we no longer have a scouting network. Look at the squad we inherited though I am not sure you can say our network on scouts contributed to them at all anyway. Most were either known by Richard, Toddy or me or all 3. Constable, Midson, Yemi, Evans, Flitney, Poke. Drury contacted me so wasn't scouted. Payne we watched when he played us as we did with Ross. Greener, Jai, Strevs were already here. Harding asked to train with us. Parts we knew about and Turley I can't remember exactly but i knew him from FGR and I am sure Richard or Toddy was already aware. Richard's scouting network tended to scout the opposition and he looked at the players he signed but we signed quite a few players as most clubs do on previous knowledge. We certainly did that with Beckwith, Toddy etc in our Conference South days so it has served us well in the past. Having said that you are only as good as your recruitment so whether we have recruited the right players in the past or future will be key but our scouting network is as big as it has ever been - whether they are the right people who make the right choices will be seen but we are not recruiting in a different way and we are looking at far more players between us than we ever have. Also there is a huge performance incentive for the players to achieve as there was in the FA CUP. So here again we do have a system where by they get rewarded if we achieve and earn less if they don't. It has worked in the cup but is currently not working in the league. The other comments you make it is probably not prudent for me to comment on a forum on but just thought you should know we do have a scouting network and bonus system rather than think we don't - not sure who has told you these things but they are wildly misinformed.
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Post by Bruce Forbes on Feb 17, 2016 11:43:10 GMT
Keep up the good work, Stewart. If it doesn't come right this season, it will next year. I'm glad that I've renewed our season tickets, and am looking forward to a rosy future. Well done, Stewart, and thank you for all your hard work.
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Post by grumpy on Feb 17, 2016 11:52:27 GMT
Top man Stewart, thank you. Now the players need to also reward you by bringing home a win. Let's hope with all the support on Saturday that this happens. We have good players in the squad, we just need a bit of cohesion now to bring them all together.
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