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Dos
Nov 1, 2017 15:04:32 GMT
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Post by ballboy on Nov 1, 2017 15:04:32 GMT
No - I would still be on my laptop looking at this forum 😂
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Dos
Nov 1, 2017 15:57:05 GMT
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Post by nobadspitfire on Nov 1, 2017 15:57:05 GMT
No. He went as far as he could with us. Completely different challenge with SU. I'm sure he loves driving up to your place X times a week. Good luck to him with you. End of.
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Post by durkiboy on Nov 1, 2017 16:08:59 GMT
Don't take this the wrong way, have you ever wondered where you would be if Dos was still your manager? Now, don't take this the wrong way, but I'm sure that we would have upgraded from a DOS system to Windows 10..............
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Post by unknownquantity on Nov 1, 2017 18:15:08 GMT
I think this is a difficult question to answer as I think that when Jason Dodd replaced Dos as manager, with the latter becoming General Manager we were struggling to avoid relegation from the National League South. Whether Dos could have turned things around as well as Jason did is something is very much a matter for debate.
The most pertinent question is what would have happened if Dos had never come back to the club in the first place and achieved three promotions in successive seasons. Would be still in the Sydenham's Wessex League with double figure crowds?
My own view is that Dos had a lot of off the field stuff to deal with at Eastleigh and being older and wiser now he appears to have become a better manager at Conference level.
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Dos
Nov 1, 2017 18:51:24 GMT
Post by back4more on Nov 1, 2017 18:51:24 GMT
I've always enjoyed the friendly rivalry between Eastleigh and Sutton. I can understand Paul Doswell's ambitions in moving to Sutton when he did with that club having a much bigger profile at that time, especially with its FA cup exploits. I can't though imagine Paul still being at the Silverlake now. Had he still been in charge when Stewart came in to save the club from slipping back to 'from whence it came' (as it surely might have done) I suspect that there might not have been a good chemistry between manager and owner. Perhaps the club might not have been big enough for both those personalities? As we stand I think it's fair to surmise that Eastleigh's interests are best served with the combination of Stewart Donald and Richard Hill leading the business and football elements respectively until they get things back on an even keel between them.
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Dos
Nov 1, 2017 19:47:01 GMT
Post by loudnproud on Nov 1, 2017 19:47:01 GMT
Don't take this the wrong way, have you ever wondered where you would be if Dos was still your manager?
No not really, Bloody nice bloke who has with Bairdy, done a fantastic job at your place.
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Dos
Nov 1, 2017 21:46:13 GMT
Post by tenacres on Nov 1, 2017 21:46:13 GMT
I believe it was 11 years ago (late 2006) when Doswell stopped as EFC manager so a very very difficult hypothetical question to answer. I'd guess in the conference south, perhaps with a brief visit to the conf/Ryman at some point in the 11 years.
Remember at the time thinking it was the right time for him to depart as manager. He did so much off the pitch for Eastleigh and its hard to think that the wouldn't compromise his management at Conference South/National level.
I guess maybe Sutton are fortunate that he perhaps cut his teeth at Eastleigh FC and had a bit more managerial nous when the Sutton job came along. Of course things in football change so quickly and in X months (even weeks) time any manager in the national leagues "stock" can quite easily go up or down dramatically.
Of course Dozzies place in the history of Eastleigh FC is cemented for everymore thanks to an incredible 3 seasons on and off the pitch and I'm sure he will always hold a place in the majority of Eastleigh fans hearts.
However that was over a decade ago and we have moved forward massively on and off the field since then. We could have had any manager under the sun in charge, but without a change in ownership of the football club its probable (IMO) that the last few years progress would not have happened.
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Dos
Nov 1, 2017 21:50:05 GMT
Post by michaelefc on Nov 1, 2017 21:50:05 GMT
have you ever wondered where you would be if Dos was still your manager?
No, never.
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Dos
Nov 1, 2017 21:58:26 GMT
Post by unknownquantity on Nov 1, 2017 21:58:26 GMT
Perhaps it is worth adding that when Dos took over at Sutton they had just been relegated from the division Eastleigh were in.
I also think that Dos and Stewart are similar in a lot of ways.
I think that when Stewart took over at Eastleigh a budget cut had been made which changed from a top half of the table team not good enough to be promoted to a bottom half of the table team not likely to be relegated. I am not sure what would have happened the following season if Stewart had not arrived, but I saw no evidence to suggest that we were in danger of returning to where we came from.
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Dos
Nov 1, 2017 22:23:20 GMT
Post by tenacres on Nov 1, 2017 22:23:20 GMT
"I think that when Stewart took over at Eastleigh a budget cut had been made which changed from a top half of the table team not good enough to be promoted to a bottom half of the table team not likely to be relegated. I am not sure what would have happened the following season if Stewart had not arrived, but I saw no evidence to suggest that we were in danger of returning to where we came from."
Agree with all of that. My point being that we have moved on considerably from 2006 to today.
We went up 3 divisions in the 3 years under Doswell and it was fairly obvious at the time that that was a permanent move up the footballing pyramid rather than a temporary one
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Dos
Nov 2, 2017 10:56:27 GMT
Post by rocky on Nov 2, 2017 10:56:27 GMT
move forwards not backwards!
no point in thinking about ifs but and maybes from a decade ago
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Dos
Nov 2, 2017 11:19:50 GMT
Post by back4more on Nov 2, 2017 11:19:50 GMT
What I saw from my seat Malcy during the early months of that 2011/12 season was a side which looked unlikely to sustain its place in the division in the long term. There had been a mass exodus of good players during the summer. The playing budget had been cut dramatically and there was a stated intention to rely increasingly on young players. We were scraping results through the hard work of the core group of experienced players left at the club (one of whom had been released and then re-engaged) plus some good loanees. There seemed to be no cavalry on the horizon to come and save us and without money, the prospects looked very bleak to me.
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Dos
Nov 2, 2017 18:17:32 GMT
Post by unknownquantity on Nov 2, 2017 18:17:32 GMT
My own view of the 2011/12 season is that even before Bridle took over we did not look like going down, but if things stayed as they were I am not sure how we would have fared the following season.
After the start of that season we bought in Michael Green who has proved to be a good signing for the club, Graeme Montgomery and Chris Flood who were scoring goals in the Conference South for a few years after leaving the club and Ian Herring who in my view played well for the club that season and there may have been others.
As for the youngsters I think that Ian Baird preferred a team of experienced players more than Richard Hill does and it is interesting to note that when I checked a few years later one of the youngsters he released quickly was still playing Conference National football and another two were playing in either the Conference North or South. I also believe and correct me if I am wrong that the only time Ian Baird reached the Conference South playoffs with Eastleigh was after a mid-season budget cut.
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Dos
Nov 2, 2017 19:06:17 GMT
Post by nobadspitfire on Nov 2, 2017 19:06:17 GMT
Interesting (or not) that the original post to this thread by sufc has been deleted/has disappeared. No Admin shenanigans, shirley? Or was it that sufc didn't get the reaction he/she was hoping for?
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Dos
Nov 2, 2017 21:41:38 GMT
Post by unknownquantity on Nov 2, 2017 21:41:38 GMT
I do not believe that the original poster has visited the forum since the third reply to it, although one of the replies cuts and pastes the original post.
Cannot remember if title of thread has been changed.
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