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Post by michaelefc on Jul 12, 2017 19:48:39 GMT
The witch-hunt against JC starts earlier and earlier every year. How about we allow pre season to run its course and not make any assumptions about anything until the end of it? If JC starts against Bromley and if he costs us the game by missing several chances then you have a case for him not to start against Sutton. Otherwise just let him and the team prepare without daft comments about games which are almost solely about fitness.
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Post by tenacres on Jul 12, 2017 20:42:50 GMT
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Post by efcspitfire on Jul 13, 2017 8:13:28 GMT
I was actually talking about his performance last season though. Four goals for a centre forward who played most of the minutes is pathetic. Stop defending it,that is not good enough at any level.
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Post by nobadspitfire on Jul 13, 2017 10:06:47 GMT
I was actually talking about his performance last season though. Four goals for a centre forward who played most of the minutes is pathetic. Stop defending it,that is not good enough at any level. Actually, it was 6 goals. 5 in the NL, 1FA Cup. Still not good enough, from a centre forward who played so many games/minutes over the whole season. I, too was very surprised he got a new contract. Let's hope he justifies it.
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Post by efc21 on Jul 13, 2017 10:23:03 GMT
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Post by thelake on Jul 13, 2017 11:04:56 GMT
if we are looking at players that didn't impress last season it could be a long list: stack hoyte stearn
would certainly feature - could make a case for a quite few others. at least beano has previously had 2 good years with us. 4 gaffers in hill, todd, moore and allen have all regularly played him so he is probably not that bad a player, more to a forwards game than goals as well. also worth remembering he had quite a nasty hernia op at the start of last summer so doubt he had a proper pre season in 2016
its a fresh season lets give the players a chance, even the lads who were transfer listed deserve another go
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Post by unknownquantity on Jul 13, 2017 21:42:12 GMT
The last post was a sensible one. I personally find the criticisms of Constable to be very unilateral in their approach. I think it is fair enough to comment on the season he just had, but I also think that with all the changes on and off the field I think that any player playing a whole season would struggle to maintain their normal level of performance.
It is maybe worth remembering that it was Richard Hill who bought JC to the club and it is perhaps worth remembering JC's goalscoring record during RH's first spell as manager. People might not think he can easily replicate this, but working for a manager who knows and appreciates what the player can do must give him a better chance of doing so.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 14, 2017 5:13:57 GMT
JC's scoring record under RH first time round matters not one jot, he's been rubbish for the last two seasons and the majority of our fans agree about that. He should have left this summer but I guess no one would have him with that strike rate....why on earth would they.....why do we?
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Post by unknownquantity on Jul 15, 2017 7:54:14 GMT
I agree that what matters is how JC performs this season. However I do not think it can be argued that JC's best football in an Eastleigh shirt has come under Richard Hill.
Not only was he the leading scorer in the playoff season, but he commenced the 2015/16 season with 5 goals in 6 games, 4 of which were won and 2 were drawn.
Having looked at his Wikipedia entry I reckon he needs one more to reach 100 goals in the Conference.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 15, 2017 8:05:41 GMT
You're very clever Malcy to bypass last seasons performances....I wonder why? Maybe 5 goals defeats your argument to defend him?
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Post by willk on Jul 15, 2017 13:42:02 GMT
No one has a crystal ball so not much point criticising and speculating. Let the stats after 10 games do the talking about constables performance. I suspect it won't be great,but no one can be certain of that.
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Post by unknownquantity on Jul 15, 2017 20:50:42 GMT
I do not mention Jamie Constable's record of last season, because I think the most important question is has he the potential to be effective at Conference National again, and in my view there is not absolutely irrefutable evidence that taking all relevant factors into account that he does not, although I appreciate that this is something other people may have different views on.
I actually think the case of James Constable last season is not too dissimilar to that of Richard Gillespie at Eastleigh a few years ago and I see Richard is part of the Poole squad that did well in the National League South last season.
I personally think that generally speaking the world of sport has numerous cases of individuals who have periods where they perform less well than previously and their selection then becomes dependent on whether their lack of form is regarded as a blip or a sign that they are past their best. I think that if the previous year's form becomes the sole basis for team selection then there would have been a strong case for excluding Ian Botham from the Headingley Test of 1981 and for those who remember that match I think the decision to include him proved to be the right one.
I hope that even if people do not necessarily agree with me they can understand the principle behind what I am saying. However I would also to thank willk for his last post which I thought was a very sensible one.
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Post by efctommygreen on Jul 16, 2017 10:40:28 GMT
Bang on post as usual Malcy.
Keith, I do wish you get fully behind James Constable and rest of the team for the coming season. What`s in the past, stay in the past. However if you are still hell bent on last season`s performances and bullying one individual on the keyboard, then I look forward to you starting on our Defence from last season which conceded the most goals in any National season we competed in.
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Post by efcspitfire on Jul 16, 2017 19:36:17 GMT
How is any of this bullying over the keyboard? The facts state that Constable simply is not good enough to be a number 9 in this division anymore. We can't be challenging for promotion with a strike rate that poor from our main striker. How can anyone not see this? Goals win games!
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Post by upthespitfires on Jul 16, 2017 21:36:04 GMT
The facts state that Constable simply is not good enough to be a number 9 in this division anymore! It's a good job he's number 8 this season then ;-)
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