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Post by 18yardbox on Apr 27, 2016 16:41:55 GMT
May be set to leave Winchester City this summer according to reports.... Obviously unproven at this level but certainly knows where the goal is! A gamble it may well be but has either party got anything to lose?
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Post by michaelefc on Apr 27, 2016 16:48:36 GMT
I'd have a look!
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Post by Deleted on Apr 27, 2016 16:51:57 GMT
Poole Town or Salisbury would be my guesses. If he was to go a couple of levels higher, then Hemel Hempstead would be a good fit, but he could end up at either Gosport or Havant if he's less ambitious but goes for a closer geographical move. He wouldnt get a kick at Eastleigh, so it's pointless bringing him over.
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Post by tenacres on Apr 27, 2016 16:56:13 GMT
Andy Forbes didn't do too badly jumping up 3 levels from Winchester.
Definately worth considering
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 6:41:45 GMT
Forbsy never played above Conf south level and we are now far beyond that level. 2 other players gave smashed in 50 goals a season at Wessex level, Lee Wort and Jamie White, but neither of them were deemed good enough for this level and Worty even struggled to get a game in the Conf south and has now ended up back at Sholing.... The jump is too big...and we are looking at bringing in L2 strikers, not Wessex strikers...we can't even find a spot for our own Tony Lee in the squad, so what chance would Bentley have here?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 6:50:31 GMT
Have to agree on this one Sattsy, I think since they've been relegated Basingstoke would be a good fit, he could probably get goals at step three, help bring them back up and see how he fares in National South with them. By the way Sattsy, Poole won their league so will be in National South next season.
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Post by tenacres on Apr 28, 2016 6:58:31 GMT
Winchester were in the level above (Southern south & west) the Wessex.
I'm sure if you'd been around a few years ago you'd have argued against us signing Charlie Austin
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 7:43:21 GMT
Winchester were in the level above (Southern south & west) the Wessex. I'm sure if you'd been around a few years ago you'd have argued against us signing Charlie Austin Are we also going to be backing every 5000/1 shot to win the premier league from now on ? It's easy to point out anomalies, but what about the other 4999 failures along the way ?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 7:46:37 GMT
Keep throwing those toys out of your pram Rendel...its about opinions on a forum. You think Bentley can play in The National League, your entitled to that opinion, others do not, you have to respect their views too, its what makes football what it is.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 8:24:45 GMT
Bentley has been around for a few years, and no one has taken a chance on him. That tells me a lot. I've only seen him a couple of times, but he's nowhere near our level and has done all his work around the Wessex level (just one season at South/West level). lol the Charlie Austin reference, why not chuck in Vardy too.....Have you actually seen Bentley play Rendel? My guess is no youi havent, even though he played against us in the Hants cup this season (came on as a sub for last 20 mins or so) and Winchesters ground is only about 10-15 miles from where you live? Pretty much every season, certainly every other season, someone somewhere smashes in 50 goals at Wessex level or its equivalent around the country. Not even 1% of those strikers ever get to play 4 levels above where they smashed in the goals, and that's is what we are talking about here. As said, the jump is too big. If Bentley was an 18 yr old, then yes maybe bring him in for PS training and see how he looks, But Bentley is 25 yrs old and is a full time teacher, His chance of playing at this level has gone, and the highlight of his career has been playing for Arlesford & Winchester for 4 years....that's not the sign of an up and coming hotshot, no matter how many he bangs in at the level. Lee Wort was exactly the same. Gosport took a punt on him and it didnt work out, as i had long predicted when he was still at Sholing that he wouldnt be a success at Conf South level. People used to challenge me about that, biut i was proved right. If you watch players, you see things in them and you see whats missing in their game to turn them into a candidate for this level. Some you can coach to make improvements, but some dont want to be coached and i felt Worty wouldnt learn and wouldnt enjoy it. When all said & done, of the players mentioned above who banged them in at the lower levels, not one of them would even make the bench here, so what would be the point?
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Post by tenacres on Apr 28, 2016 9:28:15 GMT
I'm not sure if I have seen Bentley play, no idea if he'd be good enough for national level or not.
My idea would be to get around a dozen or so of these local younger lads who have succeeded at a lower level and trial them in pre-season and then maybe dish out contracts to the best couple of them once we have assessed their skills, fitness, attitude etc. to work out if they have the potential to make it at our level. Then (as you posted a few days ago which I agreed with) we'd have a striking coach, goal keeping coach etc etc that would work closely with them and hopefully bring these younger players through to be EFC regulars.
Of course its a gamble, but these lads will be cheap or free to sign with relatively low wages so I feel its worth the risk.
Am sure if we examined our current squad and the contracts that were handed out to "proven" players we'd think there were a few that we got poor value on, but that's gonna be the same with every club, its the nature of football.
The problem with signing your proven L2 players (Kee, Akinde, Tubbs etc etc) is that if they are young and in contract they will cost megabucks and want a good £££ in wages. If they are older and not in contract (or loans like Tubbs) then they might cost even more in wages.
Unless we really up our budget I can't see how we are going to afford a 20 strong squad of all stars like that, & even if we could I am not sure it would be a good idea anyway.
It could also be a way of lowering the age of the team which is something which I have seen advocated on here a few times.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 17:49:11 GMT
We already have over a dozen local players that we we are coaching, that's Lee Peacocks group...None of them will become EFC first team regulars. I'll say it once again, the gap is too big.
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Post by michaelefc on Apr 28, 2016 18:37:14 GMT
Don't want to go over old ground again Paul, but I'll say what I always say in this situation - what then is the purpose of what Lee is doing then?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2016 18:43:37 GMT
I have raised that same question in the past. I could give you the answer to the question aswell, but i'm not putting it on here again, as i know it doesnt go down well.
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Post by hantslondoner on Apr 28, 2016 18:47:34 GMT
We didn't know if Luke Coulson could make the step up from Conf South, either.
I like tenacres' idea, we need some younger players, and if they're local, this might attract more support, too.
But I also agree with michaelefc that there seems little point in Lee's group if there's no progression to the first team - we're missing an intermediate step. At the moment we seem to be working with good youngsters who then go off to other clubs. But also as michaelefc says, we've discussed this all before.
I've seen Warren Bentley play a few times and he's very good at his level. He took the step from Wessex to Southern S+W easily, but I find it impossible to say whether he would hack it three leagues higher. Try one or two leagues higher first.
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