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Post by boyatthood on Feb 21, 2016 0:35:58 GMT
Sounded like a better performance today but this wretched run just keeps on going. Can't and shouldn't give up on a play off space but it's a brave man to bet on it now. Cheltenham and Braintree next so it doesn't get easier. I shall keep believing the form will turn and we must get behind the team but if no points are recorded from the next two, Todd's appointment has to be questioned. I wondered when the first suggestions of Toddy's appointment were going to happen!! Doesn't take a lot before people start shouting obscene chants about the management and board. How is this helping the lads? Just go and watch a Premiership side instead. Nuff said. Huh? What's all the obscene chanting about? I have no idea! I am in full support of the manager, I really hope he turns it around. It think he is genuine and hard working.I think the next two games are crucial though. If he loses them that will be six defeats on the bounce and as 'the duck' points out it would be fair game to question the manager of any club at this point. As for helping the lads, yeah I buy a season ticket which helps to pay their wages. Nuff said!
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Post by tyreman on Feb 21, 2016 7:34:45 GMT
I wondered when the first suggestions of Toddy's appointment were going to happen!! Doesn't take a lot before people start shouting obscene chants about the management and board. How is this helping the lads? Just go and watch a Premiership side instead. Nuff said. I'd question anyone's thought process questioning the board but the manager is fair game. He applied for the post, he wanted the job & the opportunity to manage these players. He enjoyed the praise in that fantastic honeymoon period which included the cup run. But he had no experience managing and hasn't yet made any difference other than that away cup win at Crewe & the Bolton home draw. Why are you getting at Toddy, don't you think overall that was a good performance yesterday, more like the team we have seen prior to Christmas - nobody was running him down then. The reason we lost yesterday was the incompetence of the referee and linesman, a definite offside and the way everyone charged in and somehow left Flitney on the floor and bundled the ball into the net for the second one - Parkin plan no doubt. The team were very unlucky not to come away with a result. You cannot blame Chris Todd for the way they played yesterday so get real, our bad run continued yesterday, it WILL change I'm sure. Believe.........
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Post by efc21 on Feb 21, 2016 7:50:37 GMT
You only get a straight red for dissent if it involves foul and abusive language.
Ben Strevens was a fair distance away from the ref who showed him the red card after Jon Parkin went to him.
I therefore suspect it was for spitting. If so, as it is his second red card of the season, he will probably get a four match ban.
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Post by martync1984 on Feb 21, 2016 7:55:46 GMT
On another note, I heard a couple of people slagging tubbs off, the man has hardly played this season but he seems to be getting up to match fitness (had a couple of good chances yesterday) and his movement was very good so just leave off the guy and give him a chance!
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Post by spitfiretoby on Feb 21, 2016 8:02:52 GMT
The ref wasn't having that bad a game until we scored, after that everything started going Forest Green's way. The first goal, possibly offside, hard to tell from behind the goal. The second goal was a joke, Flitney was obstructed by 1 maybe 2 FGR players, like he was for every corner. But then it became a scramble and the FGR players bundled our players and the ball in the net. In the game these days, that is a foul on the keeper every single time.
1-1 would have been a fair result and I would have taken a point before the game. Eastleigh played much better than recent games, and we could have won if some of our shots weren't straight at the keeper.
Our atrocious run has to end soon and against Cheltenham would be perfect, we like ending unbeaten runs, although Bristol Rovers weren't too happy about it last season!!
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Post by spitfiretoby on Feb 21, 2016 9:29:10 GMT
Highlights have been put on YouTube by FGR, 1st goal doesn't look offside, Greener playing Parkin on. Second goal doesn't look too bad from the camera angle. Have a look and make your own mind up.
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Post by spitfiretoby on Feb 21, 2016 9:29:59 GMT
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Post by bomber on Feb 21, 2016 10:37:50 GMT
Anyway. Its was a good game, I wasn't bored. Parkin spiced things up. Their fans are pathetic. The ale from that bus was very nice and the coach journey was awful. Roll on Saturday (prays it doesn't rain!)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 10:40:07 GMT
Having just read through this thread, there are some interesting points of view on yesterdays game, some no doubt written from an emotional perspective and some written from a more rounded viewpoint. My take on the game was that we did ok, but no more than that. For those stating we were back to our best, i cannot agree with that & feel you are clutching at straws. Sure we huffed and puffed and did play a better passing game than we have been playing of late, but 99% of it came to nothing yesterday. Other than Beano's very well taken goal and a weak shot on target from Tubbs, we never really looked like causing an upset. Equally, i don't think FGR had many chances either, but they looked more threatening than we did and they had muscle upfront, where as our 2 looked isolated & were in the main well marshaled by the FGR defence, as someone else pointed out above. For anyone expecting more of Tubbs, then you have to look at the service he is getting, which is pretty non existent. I keep saying it and i'll continue saying it, he needs a partner he can play off and Beano isn't that partner. The problem is, you cannot drop Beano right now, as he is playing reasonably well off the scraps he is getting and is at least continuing to a few score goals. So what do you do if you are SD and Toddy? Do you you go out & try and get the perfect partner for Tubbs, in the hope that he then hits the goal trail & we keep our feint play off hopes alive, or do you keep pairing him with Beano, knowing that Beano will get you the odd goal, but knowing that Tubbs is costing you and arm and a leg and will be a very expensive pedestrian in the remaining games this season. For me, the answer to that question is which (if any) of those 2 strikers do you intend to sign for next season? If you intend to keep one, then you may aswell ditch the other one now, because we are most definitely not making the play offs this season if we continue with that pairing upfront. Add up what either of them is going to cost you in wages to the end of the season, and put that towards a transfer fee for John Akinde. The elephant in the room question is, do you just let Toddy go through the motions for the remainder of this season and finish 6th-8th, or do we line a new boss up for pre-season and to build a squad for next year early. Toddy needs help, Shaun North doesnt appear to be having any impact at all & I'm glad that someone mentioned the warm up being very lazy, i've been saying that since Bairdy left, its laughable, its just 16 lads having a friendly low paced kick about whilst chatting about what they got upto last night, its embarrassing really. We need high tempo from the off and if you go through a warm up like we do, you are only ever going to go out feeling a bit meh... So back to my weekly gripe, we are still conceding 2 goals per game, we do not like we are going to be able to better that, and we cant score 3 every week, or any week it would appear, so something needs to change. You either change you defence (drastically), change you strike partner to get you 3 goals per game, or change your manager. Do we need to do all three? will we do it now? or will we wait until next season. I suspect it will be the latter and it will only be 2 from 3.
Parkin - 5 kebab's and a Full English inside him, he was still the most influential player on the park. His first goal whether offside or not, was a sensational finish, his second was sheer bullying of our weak defenders. It happens every week. When are we going to toughen up!
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Post by spitfiretoby on Feb 21, 2016 10:46:09 GMT
There's no game on Saturday, we play Tuesday 1st March v Cheltenham
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Post by ballboy on Feb 21, 2016 10:56:06 GMT
Not sure if anyone else thought it strange but Ross cosying up to Parkin after the final whistle doesn't seem right. A simple handshake would have been better.
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Post by merlin on Feb 21, 2016 10:59:57 GMT
We were told by SD that there were some very high profile applicants for the vacant managers role when Hilly walked away, yet he went for Toddy. The real question is who identifies the players needed, the manager or he owner? Tubbs is not the answer, he's just an expensive name at the end of the road. Something needs to happen and soon.
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Post by taylov on Feb 21, 2016 11:43:52 GMT
"Doesn't take a lot before people start shouting obscene chants about the management and board." Perhaps these "fans" should crawl back to whatever club they used to watch or was it a case of one whiff of the barmaid's apron?
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Post by back4more on Feb 21, 2016 12:49:55 GMT
Considering the opposition, the away venue and the conditions I thought that was an excellent performance.
Their player went over the top on Ross Flitney and should have been sent off. Parkin should have had two yellows for his blatant goal celebrations in front of the away fans. The second was even more antagonistic and provocative than the first.
From my seat the first goal looked offside at the time but the recording shows that Michael Green was playing Parkin onside when the ball was played to him.
The second goal is highly dubious. The recording bears out the impression at the time that defenders were being fouled, possibly not by 1950's standards but certainly by today's interpretation. Had we scored that, that referee would never have given us a goal. Decisions after we scored were generally going one way. You can also see from the footage that the referee sent Ben Strevens off after Parkin told him to and Parkin then had a good laugh about it, especially having not been penalised for an earlier blatant elbow on Strevs.
Playing wise we might not have reached our full potential in that game but it was a big leap from what I saw at Lincoln. I missed the Kidderminster and Gateshead matches but from the feedback on those matches on this forum I'd guess we also improved compared with those games.
The concensus amongst the local press after the game seemed to be that Eastleigh were unlucky not to be taking a point from the game, and this is at high flying Forest Green remember. I even heard one comment to the effect we'd been robbed.
Overall, with no points to show from the last four games, I believe from what I am seeing that we are going the right way.
I agree we always should be looking to improve - any successful club will always be doing that anyway. You do have to be realistic though as to how you do that. It's easy to say you need to recruit this or that sort of player but if you are only prepared to field what you consider to be the perfect technical combination you will be lucky to be the club that can attract the best players for each of the specific roles that you want to have in your side. If on the other hand you get the chance to get top notch players who might not seem the perfect fit then you can develop the team around them and the best players will adapt into new roles with a new club. Matt Tubbs can definitely do that and you could see yesterday how he is working to fit in. One of the main things he is contributing though is he is taking some of the workload from James Constable.
Re SS comment above, my understanding is that Macca would want a longer contract than to the end of the season. I don't know how he is doing for his current club.
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Post by efcalan on Feb 21, 2016 14:10:50 GMT
There is a warm up just for 10 mins then they resort to shooting at a goal as a warm up with a sub setting them up it always bugged me we must look so unprofessional most of them shots end up in the crowd!
Regarding the game FGR number 2 Pipe ran the game, breaking our phases up constantly was always involved in there play looked a very good player. Just what we need some power house to be every where willing to put himself on the line for the team! Parkin was very quite most of the game until he scored then he was putting himself around maybe due to the abuse he took! Then still our players try to walk the ball in the net, we had chances to get the ball into the box but we messed around with it and ended up losing it!!
Experience in our squad we should be up there and not on this sort of run so it's right to be questioning the Manager IMO there's not enough experience there for were SD can see this club playing which he has mentioned being in the FL! That's just my opinion and I'm sure many will disagree!!
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